(meteorobs) Constantinople, A.D. 472
-----c-HArlie
charlies at junct.com
Fri Sep 24 23:28:40 EDT 2004
Two large eruptions occurred in 472 and 512. Marcellinus Comes reported
that, on the 6th of November, 472, "Vesuvius (...) erupted the burning
interiors, caused night during the day and covered all Europe with fine
ash ". This eruption is also confirmed by Manuele (Gasparini and
Musella,1991)
http://vulcan.fis.uniroma3.it/vesuvio/vesuvio.html
There many more URLs.
I used www.dogpile.com and the search string: 'Vesuvius eruptions' 472
Fuzzy Logic wrote:
> The meteorite impact occurred in Tracia was in 416 BC and not in 416
> AD. The events of 472 AD in Constantinoples were due to the november
> eruption of the Vesiuvius. All that has nothing to do with the Sirente
> impact (cfr. Santilli et ali, A catastrophe remembered, Antiquity,
> 2003). Nowaday is very rare to find researchers who moves by original
> historical sources.
>
> Sincerly
>
> FL
>
>
> To: <meteorobs at atmob.org>
>
> * Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Constantinople, A.D. 472
> * From: "Roberto G." <md6648 at mclink.it>
> * Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:39:38 +0100
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>>From: <KCStarguy at aol.com>
>
>> I am still amazed about this impact and event. With a help from a friend I
>> found the following.
>> Dr. Eric Flescher (kcstarguy at aol.com),
>> Olathe, KS. USA
>> FGU astronomy consultant, Harvard U.-Member, ASKC (Astronomical Society of
>> Kansas City), Comet Observers Award Moderator, Astronomical League.
>> (http://www.astroleague.org/al/obsclubs/obsclub.html)
>> (http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/cometaward.htm); State of
>Kansas- Solar System Ambassador - JPL (Jet
>> Propulsion Lab);
>> 7 total solar eclipses and counting
>> **
>> In a message dated 7/1/02 9:28:29 PM, CHRISTINECissy writes:
>>
>> << From: Rain of Iron and Ice, Dr. John S. Lewis, Addison-Wesley
>Publishing,
>> December 1995, Page 1
>>
>>
>> Reconstruction of events in Constantinople, A.D. 472
>>
>> It was a warm, clear afternoon in the capital. The bustle of metropolitan
>> commerce and tourism filled the streets. Small sailing vessels dotted the
>> sheltered waters within sight of the government buildings, riding on a
>soft
>> southerly breeze. The Sun sparkled on the gentle swells and wakes,
>lending a luminous
>> glow to the poppies and tulips nodding in the parks along the water's
>edge.
>> All was in order.
>>
>> But suddenly the sky brightened as if with a second, more brilliant Sun.
>A
>> second
>> set of shadows appeared; at first long and faint, they shortened and
>> sharpened rapidly. A strange hissing, humming sound seemed to come from
>everywhere at
>> once. Thousands craned their necks and looked upward, searching the sky
>for
>> the new Sun. Above them a tremendous white fireball blossomed, like the
>> unfolding of a vast paper flower, but now blindingly bright. For several
>seconds the
>> fierce fireball dominated the sky, shaming the Sun. The sky burned
>> white-hot, then slowly faded through yellow and orange to a glowering
>copper-red. The
>> awful hissing ceased.
>>
>> The onlookers, blinded by the flash, burned by its searing heat, covered
>> their eyes and cringed in terror. Occupants of offices and apartments
>rushed to
>> their windows, searching the sky for the source of the brilliant flare
>that had
>> lit their rooms. A great blanket of turbulent, coppery cloud filled half
>the
>> sky overhead. For a dozen heartbeats the city was awestruck, numbed and
>> silent. Then, without warning, a tremendous blast smote the city,
>knocking
>> pedestrians to the ground. Shuttered doors and windows blew out; fences,
>walls and
>> roofs groaned and cracked. A shock wave raced across the city and its
>> waterways, knocking sailboats flat in the water.
>>
>> A hot sulfurous wind like an open door into hell, the breath of a cosmic
>> ironmaker's furnace, pressed downward from the sky, filled with endless
>> reverberation of invisible landslides. Then the hot breath slowed and
>paused; the
>> normal breeze resumed with renewed vigor, and cool air blew across the
>city from
>> the South. The sky overhead now faded to dark gray, then to a portentous
>black.
>> A turbulent black cloud like a rumpled sheet seemed to descend from
>heaven.
>> Fine black dust began to fall, slowly, gently, suspended and swirled by
>the
>> breeze. For an hour or more the black dust fell, until, dissipated and
>dispersed
>> by the breeze, the cloud faded from view.
>>
>> Many thought it was the end of the world....
>>
>> This may not be the most scientifically detailed account that I have ever
>> heard of - but it certainly is the most ethereal and poetic....
>>
>> Happy 4th!
>>
>> Best Wishes!
>> Christine >>
>
>Perharps the question it's more interesting because
>in 412 AD (+ - 40 years) it fell near Rome a very
>big meteorite that created the meteor field craters
>of Secinaro, better known as Sirente craters.
>There it's a link between the two events?
>The fall of ashes from Vesuvius in Constantinople, today
>Istanbul, occured some time, in the last eruption
>of Vesuvius in 1944 the ashes fell at 400 Km in Albania
>and Greece.
>What it was the exact date of the phaenomenon in
>Constantinople? I read somewhere that this phaenomenon
>was a rain of irons, the Secinaro craters should be
>created too by a rain of irons.
>Here following you can read an very little excerpt
>from my work on old astronomical phaenomena, there
>is not events for 472 but a precise date for 416, a big
>meteorite in 3 fragments fell in Tracia near Constantinople
>in 452 AD (following the more famous meteorite that fell
>in 465 B.C. in the area of Aegospotamos river).
>Roberto Gorelli
>
>YEAR MONTH DAY TYPE of NUMBER NOTES
>
> 412
> 416 March 28 meteorite 1 Istanbul
> 434 meteorite 1 Tracia see to 452 3 stones
> 452 meteorite 4 Tracia
> 472
>
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