(meteorobs) Re: Major Shower Peaks? -> Lyrids 2005
Esko Lyytinen
esko.lyytinen at jippii.fi
Tue Mar 1 11:56:12 EST 2005
Hi,
I have here some data and opinions of this year Lyrids possible weak
outburst.
As told by Mikhail, the 1-rev. trail is predicted to pass at a distance
of about 0.0017 AU (inside the Earth orbit). This is quite nearby, but
still probably too distant for a good outburst to appear. Looking at the
sketched profile in the ICARUS paper ( Meteor outbursts from long-period
comet dust trails, Lyytinen, Jenniskens, 2003 ), the 1-revolution trails
are expected to be quite narrow. The sketch is made from Lyrids and
Aurigids outburst data, without taking into account different sized
meteoroids. Reading from this, one would get the ZHR of about a dozen
(above the annual). The data points are however from outbursts of
somewhat bigger particles, both with the Lyrids and Aurigids than those
encountered now. So I expect the trail to be somewhat more wide than in
the figure, but then also have a smaller peak value. Taking the 1982
observation as a reference, I would however expect the rates to be a
little higher than one dozen, maybe two dozens (over the annual)?
These meteors are expected to be not bright, sorry for the moon
interference.
The timing of this encounter is expected to be quite accurate. ("The
1922 and 1982 outbursts occurred only 6±6 and 9±3 minutes earlier than
calculated.", reads in the ICARUS paper.) This is now at sol.long 31.964
(J2000.0) that converts to April 22 at 01:34 UT.
This encounter is not mentioned in the paper Table, because considered
too distant. I however expect now that someting form this trail may be
observed and I am thankful to possible observers. This will help to map
the 1-rev. trail, among others.
Besides this, some weaker outbursts not connected to the 1-rev. trail
have been observed in some of the years when the 1-rev. trail passes
quite nearby. We can however not give any real predictions. To do this,
the parent comet motion ought to be well known two revolutions back (for
two 2-rev. tral perediction) from now, which it is not. Old trails are
not expected to give outburstst with long-period comets, these will soon
get very scattered.
If any outburst of this kind (from older than 1-rev. trail) will appear,
I can not tell the timing but expect it to be within some hours from the
1-revolution encounter, but there might be the possibility of even more
time difference. On the other hand these can possibly be even quite
close or possibly even at the same time.
Esko
>Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 10:11:09 +0600
>From: Mikhail Maslov <ast0..>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Re: Major Shower Peaks?
>To: Global Meteor Observing Forum <meteorobs..>
>
>Hello, all
>
>I think, despite the Moon, some special attention is needed to the
>Lyrids this year. From Esko Lyytinen's calculation 1 rev. trail in
>April 2005 should be at 0.0017 AU from Earth. It is fairly close,
>also, there is a possibitity of older trails encounters (not computed
>by Esko). In SOME past similar cases Lyrids gave outbursts with
>ZHRs up to 100, why not this year? There no garanteees, of course,
>also the Moon will disturb greatly, but any somewhat significant
>enhancement should be seen even in these unfavorable conditions.
>
>Best regards, Mikhail Maslov
>> Does anyone know the peak dates for most of 2005's major meteor
showers? I
>> like to plan days off to stay up all night watching, and the earlier I
>> request
>> the days, the better my chances of getting them.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Anthony
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