(meteorobs) The Disintegrating Meteor
GeoZay at aol.com
GeoZay at aol.com
Wed Mar 9 17:09:17 EST 2005
Wes>> I am somewhat concerned by the number of meteor "old hands" that
seem to find this interesting image an occasion to cry "Liar liar, Pants on
fire" rather than to use their imagination. For myself, I prefer to believe
that Geir is accurate in his observation documentation and find it an
interesting puzzle. <<
Well...if it gets past the "old hands", then I'd say he had something. :O)
Wes>>Any photographer with five minutes experience with any SLR on tripod
fired remotely KNOWS that mirror flop is an extremely small effect: nowhere
near the size of the streak in the image. <<
I'd agree with you if we are talking about having a 50mm or 35mm lens
on...but I think we are talking about a 10" telescope? I'd have to go back and look
to see what the actual size is, but I think it was stated that it was a 10"?
Anyhow, when I accidentally bump my 10" while looking thru the eyepiece, I'd
see something looking rather similar...if I used my imagination just a tiny
bit. :O)
Wes>> Furthermore, anyone with
handheld star images knows that the effect is more like "worms" than "cigar
and smoke". <<
You know, a bright something can be "burned" into the film and afterwards
bump the telescope before the shutter closed and you will come out with
something similar in the photograph. The meteor/airplane or what have you has
already burned it's image in. What happens afterwards won't effect the meteor like
image after it is gone. A bright star can then jiggle around burning it's own
image in the film. If I look closely at the image in the "train" area, I see
what could be 3 or 4 stars burned in its midst.
Wes>> Since he was setting up for lunar photography (hence the plate
scale) he must have been aimed E by NE at about 15 degrees elevation (the
moon at the specified time was up 10.72deg, Az 105.9deg).<<
I just realized this object was low in the sky near the horizon. This brings
in a couple more things to think about. If this was a meteor, it would
indicate to me that it was quite far away...maybe 150 miles? At least quite a bit
further than if it occured closer to the zenith. That train sure looks mighty
spread out and focused for that distance. I'd expect any train to be
compressed with distinguishing detail quite depressed. I'm beginning to lean
towards the object being an airplane that switched on its landing lights
momentarily. I've seen this happen quite frequently when aircraft pass over mountains.
It use to be a routine sight from my old observatory in the mountains of San
Diego, Calif. I don't know if it can happen, but maybe if they were landing
lights close to an aircraft, they would also illuminate heat turbulance near
the plane like a strobe? Of course this would make the plane a lot closer than
a meteor, because of the lower elevation. Also makes things easier to
photograph in detail. Not all the time will small aircraft be heard at the likely
distance. The "meteor" image could look like what I see in the
photograph...but you might expect some part of a plane showing up in the image as well?
Wes>> Reentering
boosters and other rockets usually have residual volatiles which can produce
a plume and trail. <<
A possibility, but my money is more on the airplane theory at the moment.
>> This still doesn't rule out a grazing meteor from the
east, but I prefer the space junk idea at the moment. <<
If a grazing meteor or space junk...wouldn't both of these be relatively
long distance travelers? With space junk traveling much further than an
earthgrazing meteor. To me, the photograph doesn't seem to fit either of these
possibilities. Bottom line, it still doesn't make any sense for the photograph to
be that of a meteor and it's train.
George Zay
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