(meteorobs) Obs: 12/13 November 2007

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Paul and all,
After doing some research I'm inclined to call Sirko Molau's shower #69 the Andromedids as well.
It agrees fairly well with all current projections for the radiant (Kronk, Jenniskens).
Molau puts the radiant for shower at RA 24.6, Dec +26.5 on Nov 9, with activity from the 8-15th.
Nov 15 Radiant would be 25.8, +33.
Kronk gives the AND radiant as RA 026 Dec +37. Activity Period Sept 28-Dec 5. Peak Nov 14.
Jenniskens (IAU Shower #18) Peak Nov 14 at RA ~ 24 Dec ~ 32.5, activity 10/8-11/22.
So while Kronk and Jenniskens give a very long activity period, Molau supports detectable activity from the 8-15 of November from a radiant agreeing with Jenniskens, and only 4 degrees off from Gary.

Thanx very much for bringing up the subject, Paul!!

That's my 2 cents

Wayne

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: pmartsching at mchsi.com 

> 13 December 2007 03:45-06:45 UT (CST 12/13 Dec 9:45pm - 12:45am) 
> 
> Paul Martsching 
> McFarland Park 4 miles NE of Ames, Story County, Iowa 
> Long: 93 deg 34 min W Lat: 42 deg 05 min N Elevation: ~1,040 feet 
> Method: Visual; paper, pencil & talking clock 
> 
> Andromedids/November Piscids 
> Leonids 
> North Taurids 
> South Taurids 
> Sporadics 
> 
> Andromedids/November Piscids: 
> I have seen slow meteors during this time of year from a radiant near the 
> "tip/point" of Triangulum for more than twenty years and I have always called 
> them Andromedids. 
> 
> I have records of these meteors from 12 of the years 1984-2007 with 1993 being 
> the last "good" year when I saw 21 Andromedids over several nights. 
> 
> Examples: 
> 1984: Nov 15/16 8:35-9:10pm CST (35 minutes) 5 Andromedids (Ames) 
> 1988: Nov 13/14 7:00-8:00pm CST (1 hour) 7 Andromedids (McFarland Park) 
> 1993: Nov 8/9 8:00-9:00pm CST (1 hour) 5 Andromedids (McFarland Park) 
> 
> I have also read the paragraph in the IMO Handbook for Visual Meteor 
> Observations 1989 p.168 about approximately where the Andromedid radiant should 
> be "these days". I'm rather inclined to continue to call them Andromedids. 
> They certainly aren't anything new. 
> 
> 03:45-04:45; 34 degrees F; wind NW 3 mph; clear; average limiting magnitude 5.8; 
> facing East 50 degrees; total teff 1.0 hour 
> Time mag. type comment 
> 03:54 +3 Spor 
> 04:03 -3 STA yellow; 1 second train 
> 04:09 +4 Spor 
> 04:15 +3 Spor 
> Andromedids: none 
> Leonids: radiant not up yet 
> North Taurids: none 
> South Taurids: one: -3 
> Sporadics: three: +3(2); +4 
> Total meteors: four 
> 
> 04:45-05:45; 26 deg F; wind calm; clear; aver.lim.mag. 5.8; facing East 50 deg; 
> total teff 1.0 hour 
> Time mag. type comment 
> 04:45 +2 Spor 
> 05:21 +3 Spor 
> 05:26 +2 Spor 
> 05:26 +1 Spor yellow 
> 05:38 +3 NTA 
> 05:43 -2 NTA yellow 
> Andromedids: none 
> Leonids: none 
> North Taurids: two: -2; +3 
> South Taurids: none 
> Sporadics: four: +1; +2(2); +3 
> Total meteors: six 
> 
> 05:45-06:45; 24 deg F; wind calm; clear; aver.lim.mag. 5.8; facing East 50 deg; 
> total teff 1.0 hour 
> Time mag. type comment 
> 05:46 +2 Spor 
> 05:55 +3 Spor 
> 06:02 +2 STA 
> 06:04 +1 NTA yellow 
> 06:07 +2 AND 
> 06:13 +2 AND 
> 06:15 +5 Spor 
> 06:17 +4 Spor 
> 06:25 -1 STA 
> 06:38 +1 LEO brief train 
> Andromedids: two: +2(2) 
> Leonids: one: +1 
> North Taurids: one: +1 
> South Taurids: two: -1; +2 
> Sporadics: four: +2; +3; +4; +5 
> Total meteors: ten 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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