(meteorobs) "Ancient record of asteroid impact"

Ed Case edcase42 at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 5 13:17:02 EDT 2008


I moved to Panama two and half years ago. I built my observatory and now going to Mexico for a vacation with my 5 inch Celestron. Anyone one can give me some help on astronomy in Mexico and places to look for metors. Thanks.
 
Ed Case> To: meteorobs at meteorobs.org> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:24:26 -0400> From: mexicodoug at aim.com> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) "Ancient record of asteroid impact"> > Hello Steven,> > Thanks for the interesting post. I see you may be skeptical. IMO this > is one of those things that would make a good movie like the Nicholas > Cage, US Declaration of Independence, Treasures of Ancient Egypt, and > of course his role's relationship with the Knights Templar.> > If we pull out our Baloney Detection Kit (received from the > self-professed non-authority elders), this theory seems deficient in > the following areas.> > 1. There is confusion of correlation with causation.> 2. It is post hoc.> 3. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.> 4. How much is an argument from "authority"?> 5. Can there be independent confirmation of the "facts."?> 6. If there's a chain of argument, every individual link in the chain > must work (especially the premise).> 7. Occam's Razor - Have they accounted for alternate hypotheses?> 8. Can their hypothesis be disproven (the part about the intentions of > the scribe)?> > Still - it is interesting baloney,> > Best wishes> Doug> > -----Original Message-----> From: Steven Kolins <smkolins at mac.com>> To: Global Meteor Observing Forum <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>> Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 5:16 am> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) "Ancient record of asteroid impact"> > > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 6:40 AM, Marco Langbroek wrote:> > > I think this was an early April Fools joke to expose how gullible> > people have> > become when it comes to "evidence" for a (pre-) historic impact.> > > Except it wasn't released April 1st despite my email.> > Most of the news stories play up other angles on the story (the ref I> posted speaks of the fiery path being hot enough to anything> underneath it to be set on fire, the others wonder if this is what> brought down Sodom and Gomorra)> > This seems to be the origin of the news stories - a book's been> published.> > http://www.bristol.ac.uk/aerospace/research/dynamicsandsystems/kofels/kofelsimpactbook.html> > Also mentioned and reviewed here - http://skippytheskeptic.blogspot.com/> > Here's a August 2003 article about the Köfels slide > <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V93-4846K9T-2> &_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_ver> sion=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=3e21b2ca0346059315bb421eedb8cf32> > >> > Finding fused rock at the Köfels slide > <http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1964MinPe...9...86M> > >> > I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying it's interesting. It's not an> April fools joke. I can understand why that was said but it's not.> > Interestingly the same clay tablet was earlier referenced in another> book with more extreme, even mythological, claims....> > <http://books.google.com/books?id=ioXXW15VWGgC&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=Brit> ish+Museum+collection+No.+K8538&source=web&ots=EOIA-TpH5_&sig=8cetRRnh-oR> DcguZFvRovST1FOs&hl=en> > >> > Apparently the object is hard to decipher and it's got to be explained> away one way or the other.> > = - - - - - - - => Steven Kolins> mailto:smkolins at mac.com> http://homepage.mac.com/smkolins/> http://smk99.blogspot.com/> Possess a pure, kindly and radiant heart!> They that believe in vain thoughts forsake their own mercy.> > _______________________________________________> Mailing list meteorobs: meteorobs at meteorobs.org> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email: owner-meteorobs at meteorobs.org> http://lists.meteorobs.org/mailman/listinfo/meteorobs> > _______________________________________________> Mailing list meteorobs: meteorobs at meteorobs.org> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email: owner-meteorobs at meteorobs.org> http://lists.meteorobs.org/mailman/listinfo/meteorobs
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