(meteorobs) Repost- Clear evidence for Meteoroid ejecta/outgassing.

[Thomas Dorman]

Corrected url
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget?
Thomas

--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Thomas Dorman <drygulch_99 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Thomas Dorman <drygulch_99 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Repost- Clear evidence for Meteoroid ejecta/outgassing.
> To: "Global Meteor Observing Forum" <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 4:30 PM
> Pat and Dave
> There my be a cheap way to get video cameras up nearer to
> meteor event we wish to look at.I friend sent me this post
> of some MIT student that sent a camera up to 93,000 feet.
> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/t....r-money-budget?
> One can send a payload up without FAA approval as long as
> it's weight is no more than four pounds. Seems possible to
> me that using video camera system such as a Supercircuit
> PC402UXP type video camera in a group seems possible but it
> would cost more than the 150 dollars than the MIT students
> spent.Also I can envision the payload caring weather
> instruments for wind and a VLF receiver such as Thomas
> Ashcraft uses.Seem the possibilities are only limit by the
> weight factor and ones ability to think outside the box. If
> a group of such instruments were sent up at the peak of a
> major meteor shower,spread out some distance from each
> other, than I believe we could get some very interesting
> data.Seems even possible that one maybe able to get spectral
> data and dust samples with the right setup.Also with a
> little work ,in my view, higher atitudes of 120,000 feet
> could be possible with flight duration of 24 hours or
> more.Just an idea!
> Thomas Dorman
> --- On Thu, 9/17/09, prospector at znet.com
> <prospector at znet.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: prospector at znet.com
> <prospector at znet.com>
> > Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Repost- Clear evidence for
> Meteoroid ejecta/outgassing.
> > To: "Global Meteor Observing Forum" <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
> > Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:18 PM
> > There may be an electrical/magnetic
> > effect here that could account for the
> > forward motion of the plasma. I always felt that the
> spikes
> > from the meteor
> > I saw move away form me may have been electrical
> > discharges. Some years ago
> > in the experiments of tethers from satellites for
> > electrical generation for
> > orbiting satellites/space stations, one of the tethers
> was
> > coated with
> > something called RM400. This coating generated a
> visible
> > blue electron
> > cloud from the solar radiation. RM400 had a copper
> base but
> > other mineral
> > exxotic minerals too. The point is, the composition of
> a
> > meteor may create
> > more visible reactions while entering the atmosphere
> than
> > others.
> > 
> >                
> >            Dave English
> > 
> > Quoting Pat <pat_branch at yahoo.com>:
> > 
> > > I agree researchers should not ignore evidence
> that
> > refutes a position.
> > >  it
> > > seems the wind blown proponents are ignoring
> evidence
> > also.
> > 
> >   I like the
> > > Thomas explaination of some electrical discharge
> (like
> > sprites), we do
> > > see that phenomena on high altitude aircraft and
> > rockets leaving the
> > > atmosphere. But can someone account for the
> curving
> > effect seen if that
> > > is the explaination. Seems like the curving could
> be
> > just an optical
> > > effect if the jets are at off angles to the
> track, but
> > I think the
> > > quickness of the event would not show curving on
> any
> > length of exposure.
> > > I still cannot rule out just a camera effect -
> such as
> > mist in the air
> > > acting like a star filter.
> > 
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