(meteorobs) Repost- Clear evidence for Meteoroidejecta/outgassing.
Thomas Dorman
drygulch_99 at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 17 22:47:48 EDT 2009
Chris
What you are taking about is outside the means of most meteor observers. Your view is a great ideas.Full coverage of the upper atmospheric condition with radar which would produce data for a ground based observer to have access to would cost millions of dollar.Are you saying that getting closing to a meteor event would have zero value even if it gets you only 30% closer?How many on this group could afford such high speed imaging equipment much less radar?I was just trying to put out a low cost idea that may or may not resolve the issue at hand.Sorry for being a hertic of the main stream experts on this group.I will gladly withdraw and will remain silent.
Regards
Thomas
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Chris Peterson <clp at alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
> From: Chris Peterson <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>
> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Repost- Clear evidence for Meteoroidejecta/outgassing.
> To: "Global Meteor Observing Forum" <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 9:10 PM
> It's unclear to me how getting a
> little closer to a meteor really helps. If
> you want to understand train dynamics, you need aperture
> and fast exposures,
> neither of which are practical on an inexpensive balloon.
> Yes, you might get
> some daytime images that would be difficult from the
> ground, but you're
> still very far from the meteors. How does getting 30%
> closer improve things
> much?
>
> What would be more helpful would be a better understanding
> of mesospheric
> winds (ground based radar data) and much higher resolution,
> high speed
> meteor images- which new ground-based equipment is starting
> to provide.
>
> Chris
>
> *****************************************
> Chris L Peterson
> Cloudbait Observatory
> http://www.cloudbait.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Dorman" <drygulch_99 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Global Meteor Observing Forum" <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Repost- Clear evidence for
> Meteoroidejecta/outgassing.
>
>
> Dave and Malcolm
> For tracking a cell phone with GPS tracking could be used
> to track down the
> payload.Second a standard weather balloon would not work
> for a long duration
> flight.A zero pressure balloon for a long duration flight
> would be needed.I
> think with a little experimenting this could be worked
> out.The other problem
> I see is powering the camera or video camera system and
> recording devices
> and also other instruments. I am looking around to see what
> kind of light
> weight batteries are available.
> The MIT students used a beer cooler but weight maybe saved
> using lighter
> material used for a supporting structure for the
> instruments and cameras
> such as carbon fiber.
> I simply do not have the funds to get such a project off
> the ground but
> their maybe others in a position to do so.Also several
> people maybe able to
> pool their resources to get something going.I know the
> talent exist with
> this group only to find those in the group that have the
> will and the
> vision.I really like to see some meteor spectral data come
> from such an
> endeavor.As I said just an idea to get at the heart of the
> issues discussed
> in this thread.
> Thomas
>
>
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