(meteorobs) Early PERs from around the lamba AND

[Wayne Hally]

The radiant is 30 degrees east of where the projected Perseid radiant would
be on that date.

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org
[mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org] On Behalf Of Sergei Schmalz
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:22 PM
To: Meteor science and meteor observing
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Early PERs from around the lamba AND

Hi, Wayne et all!

Are there any documented attempts to calculate orbital elements of CAN from
double-station observations, so that the difference from PER is doubtless?

Sergei

--- Wayne Hally <meteoreye at comcast.net> schrieb am Mi, 6.7.2011:

> Von: Wayne Hally <meteoreye at comcast.net>
> Betreff: Re: (meteorobs) Early PERs from around the lamba AND
> An: "'Meteor science and meteor observing'" <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
> Datum: Mittwoch, 6. Juli, 2011 03:23 Uhr Another possibility is a new 
> shower found in the IMO video data. That data shows no evidence of 
> Perseids earlier than July 13. However there is another shower with a 
> radiant nearby, at RA 024 (1h 38m), Dec +45 on July 5 (currently in 
> eastern Andromeda), and similar velocity (59 km/s). It's new IAU 
> shower #411, CAN.  I recorded a surprising amount of activity from 
> this radiant this morning, with 4 plots out of 15 meteors in
> 1.825 hours. It's
> documented in WGN 37:4.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org
> [mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org]
> On Behalf Of Koen Miskotte
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:48 PM
> To: Meteor science and meteor observing
> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Early PERs from around the lamba AND
> 
> Hi Sergei,
> Same results here (Ermelo, the Netherlands). Last night
> (4/5 july) I could
> observe for 2,2 hours and counted 2 Perseids. The first one was a nice 
> magnitude 0 with 2 second train.
> In previous years I frequently saw activity from this region, even 
> already at the end of June. Problem with these very early Perseids (as 
> I called
> them) is that you never really know whether it really was a Perseid or 
> a sporadic meteor that accidentally came from the same region.
> But the meteors I saw last night were undoubtedly Perseids!
> Best wishes,
> koen
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> From: Sergei Schmalz
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:54 PM
> To: Meteor science and meteor observing
> Subject: (meteorobs) Early PERs from around the lamba AND
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> My visual observations on the 03/04 and 04/05 of July show, that there 
> are early PERs coming from the area around the lambda AND.
> 
> With best regards
> Sergei Schmalz
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