(meteorobs) Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

[Graham Palmer]

Hi Pete. I think Chris was talking about hearing one or more delayed sonic 
booms from the meteor as opposed to real time electrophonics.

If a meteor survives deep enough into the atmosphere to produce an audible 
sonic boom, then there is a greater chance than some fragments may make 
ground fall... At least that is what I think he means...

Cheers, Graham.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Pete" <rsvp321 at hotmail.com>
To: <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball 
Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011


>
> Hello, Chris,
>
> As an amateur eager to learn, and I know what the differences are between 
> the two sounds, what do you mean by acoustic meteors improve the chance of 
> meteorites over electrophonic?
> I haven't come across that fact before.
>
> A few years ago I was fortunate enough to hear an electrophonic meteor, 
> and after an unsuccessful hunt of the nearby area I was positive it fell 
> in, my obsession with meteorite collecting was born!
> That meteor also appeared to have debris breaking off.
>
> A thumb size explanation will do, I'll take it from there.
>
> Cheers,
> Pete
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> From: clp at alumni.caltech.edu
>> To: meteorobs at meteorobs.org
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:03:34 -0600
>> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball 
>> Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
>>
>> I certainly did not say there was no chance of meteorites. I only pointed
>> out that in the absence of a multistation analysis, the fireball appears 
>> to
>> me typical of what any one camera will capture every month or two, and 
>> which
>> in my experience has characteristics that aren't generally associated 
>> with
>> objects likely to survive their atmospheric passage.
>>
>> I had not heard that sound was reported. If this was acoustic, and not
>> electrophonic, I'd say that improves the likelihood of meteorites
>> considerably. Still, the best estimate would come from a multistation
>> analysis providing an estimate for height, entry angle, and speed.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> *****************************************
>> Chris L Peterson
>> Cloudbait Observatory
>> http://www.cloudbait.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "drtanuki"
>> To: "Global Meteor Observing Forum" ; "Wayne Hally"
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO,NE Green Fireball
>> Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
>>
>>
>> Wayne asked, "Dear Dirk,
>> What in the comments makes you say " This put rocks on the ground"?" // 
>> "So
>> Dirk, are you going to respond to this question, or continue to ignore
>> It?"
>>
>> Wayne, I live in Tokyo, Japan and have many pressing matters (Earthquakes 
>> (8
>> all 5.0+ today) and radiation in our food and water) beyond a rapid 
>> response
>> to your question. This reply is within about 12 hours so what is your
>> problem?
>>
>> Do you not see that I maintain a webpage and post and reply to several 
>> 100s
>> of emails daily. Thank you for your reminder! BTW, I do this 20 hours/ 7
>> days a week; do you have this kind of dedication for over two years? I am
>> NOT paid or funded for this, I do it because I want others to become
>> involved in fireball study.
>>
>> The videos (now 4) that I have reviewed, 40 + eyewitness reports and 
>> radar
>> data (1 set) all indicate to me that there is a rock(s) to be found (if 
>> it
>> will be found is another question).
>>
>> Yes, this was a green fireball; I know you don`t seem to like them.
>> Also there was a sonic report. It takes time for me to analyze and then 
>> get
>> posted for all of the Monday Night quarterbacks.
>>
>> Have a great day Wayne; hopefully someday soon you will get to see a 
>> large
>> green fireball in your area; they have been common recently in New Jersey
>> area.
>>
>> For the record, Chris Peterson does not see any chance for a meteorite to 
>> be
>> produced - but he hedged his statement. Rob Matson has not yet commented
>> either way. Jim Gamble is confident that a meteor survived. Marc Fries 
>> found
>> a turbulent anomaly in the proposed flight path. No information from Dr.
>> Bill Cooke yet on his data.
>>
>> Wayne best of luck counting your next shower counts! I can send a new
>> Japanese mechanical pencil if you like?
>>
>> If I have misunderstood the gist of your questioning please always feel 
>> free
>> to email me off list to introduce yourself and your disagreements.
>> Best Always, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>>
>> Some people sit and bitch and others get things done...
>> Alferd Packer, Colorado Cannibal 1874, Winter
>>
>>
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