(meteorobs) FW: NJ crater in lawn Meteorite blamed

Marc Fries fries at psi.edu
Wed May 11 17:52:39 EDT 2011


Looks like a dog vs. ground squirrel event.


On 5/11/11 1:38 PM, Jim Pettit wrote:
> I had suspected  perhaps a hastily-removed tree, but I looked at the house
> in Google Earth and Bing, and see no evidence of shrubbery where the
> "crater" is. (Unfortunately, Google's Street-View cameras haven't been down
> that particular road, so Bing's bird's eye view gives the most detail.) I
> have no ideas what caused this, either, though I'd be willing to bet every
> cent I have that it isn’t meteoritic in origin.
>
> --Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org
> [mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Hally
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:50 PM
> To: 'drtanuki'; 'Global Meteor Observing Forum'
> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) FW: NJ crater in lawn Meteorite blamed
>
> Hi Dirk,
>
> I spoke to the police captain, and he said any utilities such as gas or
> electric lines were fine. No explosives were detected. It does not look
> meteoritic to me, but I have no explanation at this point. The homeowner has
> contacted me (voicemail only so far, missed picking up the phone by 3
> seconds). I think I will be able to stop by later this week and take a
> closer look.
>   Also, the captain sent me some more photos, which I am about to look at
> now. Hopefully, some clues...
>
> Wayne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drtanuki [mailto:drtanuki at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:01 PM
> To: Global Meteor Observing Forum; Wayne Hally
> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) FW: NJ crater in lawn Meteorite blamed
>
> Wayne and List,  Thank you, Wayne!  Please take a magnet (neodynium) along
> with you.  As I posted you privately this may be a gas line rupture.  I have
> contacted the reporter but have not had a reply yet except that she seeks
> advice about meteorites.  IF??? there was a meteorite that struck there it
> must have been picked up....but the persons removing the "meteorite" would
> have missed small fragments that would have spalled off.  A magnet will be
> required IF indeed it was a meteorite that cause this (I still smell a fish
> at this point in time).  Thank you Wayne and List.  IF anyone else is going
> to be involved please kindly contact me offlist.  Thank you!  Dirk
> Ross...Tokyo
>
> --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Wayne Hally<meteoreye at comcast.net>  wrote:
>
> From: Wayne Hally<meteoreye at comcast.net>
> Subject: (meteorobs) FW: NJ crater in lawn Meteorite blamed
> To: meteorobs at meteorobs.org
> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 3:02 AM
>
> I have reached out to the local officials to see if the homeowners will
> permit me to visit, and have contacted the school where the seismic event
> was recorded to try and get more details. Will report on any progress.
> Unfortunately, the event is 5 days old, and based on the picture in the
> article, I'm sure it has been cleaned up. Still, if I can, I will take a
> look.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Hally [mailto:meteoreye at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:31 PM
> To: 'drtanuki'
> Subject: RE: NJ crater in lawn Meteorite blamed
>
> It's not too far away, I'll check into it. I'm skeptical, since a trench
> that size carved by a meteorite would have had to be traveling at space
> velocity, and it probably would not have disintegrated completely. It would
> have to be travelling almost parallel to the ground, since even impactors at
> 20 degrees create a circular crater. There are no AMS fireball reports so
> far on that morning, if a meteoroid had hit the ground at that speed  it
> would have been widely seen and reported. I'll see if I can get in touch
> with the homeowners and pay a visit; I'll be out that general direction this
> weekend.
>
> Wayne
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drtanuki [mailto:drtanuki at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:44 PM
> To: Global Meteor Observing Forum; Wayne Hally
> Subject: NJ crater in lawn Meteorite blamed
>
> Dear List,  This event has not been confirmed by any meteorite experts.
> Explosives have been ruled out by police. No meteorite found. Seismograph
> indicates "event"  at 11:35 am (may not be related?).  Seems to be a mystery
> "fishy meteorite" to me.  Anyone else smell fish?  Maybe a ruptured gas
> line?  Wayne Halley would you be interested in checking into this?
>
> http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/05/nj-meteorite-crater-claime
> d-created.html
>
> Best Regards,  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
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