(meteorobs) Whitmire, SC likely fall location

Jim Wooddell nf114ec at npgcable.com
Wed Feb 15 15:35:25 EST 2012


To help Rob a little...

http://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Columbia_064303_scan5.kmz

http://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Greer_065003_scan1.kmz

http://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Greer_064049_scan6.kmz


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Hankey 
  To: Meteor science and meteor observing 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Whitmire, SC likely fall location


  Hey Rob,


  If you wouldn't mind sending me the kmzs for this, i'm interested to see what a good meteorite return looks like. 


  Thanks,


  Mike


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Matson, Robert D. <ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com> wrote:

    Hi All,

    I found the confirming radar hits (from two radars) yesterday
    afternoon -- I can send the .KMZ files to anyone that is
    interested. They are definitely associated with the fall.
    The reflectivity, velocity and spectral returns all have
    the "candystriping" that Marc Fries and I have come to
    associate with past confirmed meteorite falls.

    The location is not as bad as it could be. Yes, lots of
    forest, but also many cleared areas due to the nearby
    town of Whitmire, SC.  --Rob

    -----Original Message-----
    From: meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org on behalf of Esko Lyytinen
    Sent: Wed 2/15/2012 2:57 AM
    To: Meteor science and meteor observing
    Subject: Re: (meteorobs) [meteorite-list] GA SC Bolide seems have produced a large rock


    I made a one station analysis of the Lawndale camera video.

    The camera was calibrated with eight found stars. And a number of frames
    were manually measured.
    A direct fit to the timed directions gives the apparent entry direction
    approximately. In this a reasonable looking deceleration was taken into
    account.
    Some level "scaling" can be got by means of an assumed beginning height,
    consistent with the resulting velocity, with a few iterations.
    I get it arriving form az-direction around 315 or 325 . The entry
    velocity seems to be about 13 km/s having then he beginning height at
    around 80 or 85 km.

    The reulting landing site from this model is very close to Jake's
    southers radar "group". I tried a further velocity (and connected
    beginnig height fit) and with the entry velocity of 13.4 km/s (in this
    model arriving from direction 319) with resulting beginning height of
    about 85 km. Now there is an almost exact hit! The end height in this is
    26 km. Camera calibration at low elevation angles may be not so good
    affecting some uncertainty to this.
    Also a resonable rough dark flight was modeled. In this the landing is
    13.8 km before the sea-level crossing of the direct track.
    Then the prediction from this would be a few kilometer to the West of
    the radar hits.

    Wind effects are not taken into account and may well affect this.
    Just now the server in Wyoming tell

    "Sorry, the server is too busy to process your request.
    Please try again later."

    when trying to get the atmospheric sounding data.

    I am practically confident that these "southern" radar hits are from
    this. It would be good to know the exact time of the radar hits.
    In my opinion the northern hit it less probabaly from this.

    No reliable end deceleration is derived from this. And from only one
    station data, this may not be got quite reilably. Ablation model would
    give a reasonable end mass for this velocity and end height of around 5
    kg (if OC). But if this was strongly fragmented in early flight, as may
    well have happened, considering the bright flashing, this mass value may
    rather suit to the biggest mass(es) and the total end mass may be bigger.

    The fall-time to the radar height would be telling on the masses of these.

    Regards,
    Esko


    > Here is my analysis of this meteor:
    >
    > http://3dradar.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/sc-2132012-at-642-utc/
    >
    > I think there is a chance there could be meteorites from this event. I
    > think it is highly misleading to say it "produced a large meteorite"
    > when nothing has been found yet...
    >
    > I think the radar hits probably need further scrutiny (Marc Fries, Rob
    > Matson?) but it seems from what I see, this meteor deserves a bit more
    > attention?
    >
    > - Jake

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