(meteorobs) Negative 2012 Draconid visual report from north Florida

Paul Jones jonesp0854 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 9 19:37:41 EDT 2012


Here in North America when it comes to seeing meteor outbursts, I'm
beginning to feel a little  like Rodney Dangerfield: "I tell ya, we get no
respect, no respect at all..." ;o).   Hope you're right Bob, on the 2014
209Pids.  We're a tad overdue...

Clear skies, Paul in north Florida

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, LEO STACHOWICZ
<l.stachowicz at btinternet.com>wrote:

> Not quite as well placed as East Asia in terms of radiant altitude in
> 2001, but if memory serves we were seeing rates of around 2500 hr from our
> observing site in Mount Isa, North-Central Australia.
>
> It was by far the least light polluted site I have ever had the pleasure
> to observe from. Both surreal and extraordinary at the same time!
>
> Clear skies,
>
> Leo
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Robert Lunsford <lunro.imo.usa at cox.net>
> *To:* Meteor science and meteor observing <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 22:35
>
> *Subject:* Re: (meteorobs) Negative 2012 Draconid visual report from
> north Florida
>
> Bruce and All,
>
> Yes the 2001 Leonids were impressive from North America but I believe they
> were even better from East Asia.
>
> I agree your 16UT statement. These recent flurries certainly seem to favor
> the hours between 12 and 24 UT. Perhaps the display from comet 209P/LINEAR
> in May 2014 will end this frustration.
>
> Clear Skies,
>
> Bob
>
> ---- Bruce McCurdy <bmccurdy at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > The 2001 Leonids were mighty well-placed for North America.
> >
> >
> >
> > I got more in Leonids one hour (655) than total meteors for any other
> night
> > in my 25 years of meteor observing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Still, I'm getting mighty sick of reading "16h UT" for some of these
> intense
> > flurries.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > *****
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org
> > [mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lunsford
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:08 PM
> > To: Meteor science and meteor observing
> > Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Negative 2012 Draconid visual report from north
> > Florida
> >
> >
> >
> > I think we used up our "storm allowance" during the 1966 Leonids. For how
> > long? Who knows??? Hopefully our longitudes will see something in the not
> > too distant future before the demise of our generation of meteor
> observers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Come to think of think of it, even the 1966 Leonids were not perfect for
> > North America as the dawn intervened on the Atlantic coast before the
> > maximum :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh yes, there was the 1985 Alpha Monocerotids, unpredicted, over in a
> flash
> > (30min), and pretty much unseen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Clear Skies!
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ---- Paul Jones < <mailto:jonesp0854 at gmail.com> jonesp0854 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I've noticed that too, Joe.  It's almost as if North America's been
> >
> > > declared a "Draconid Free Zone" of late...;o).  Even the 1999 Leonid
> >
> > > storm did that too, hitting over the Middle East and Europe
> >
> > > exclusively.  I was clouded out in Sicily for that one, seeing only a
> five
> > minute glimpse
> >
> > > through a sucker hole in the clouds.    Fortunately, the Leonids were
> >
> > > kinder to us over here in 2001 and 2002, however.
> >
> > > Seriously though, in the case of the Draconids, is there a scientific
> >
> > > explanation I wonder for a stream outburst to keep hitting the same
> >
> > > time zones on Earth over and over again, even in different years?  Or
> >
> > > is it just strictly luck of the draw each time?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Clear skies and may the Orionids be with us, Paul
> >
> >
> >
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