(meteorobs) successfully Compiled the existing "METEOR" Code

Esko Lyytinen esko.lyytinen at jippii.fi
Mon Oct 29 05:20:37 EDT 2012


Thank you for your good rating to the program !

No, the projects are not related. This is just a co-incidence.
I can not quickly tell which program was first.
The page:
http://www.windowsuninstaller.org/winuninstall/how-to-remove-JAnalyzer-1-0-guide-JAnalyzer-1-0-uninstaller-info.html
tells that the other JAnalyzer 1.0 is from the year 2009.
The meteor JAnalyzer has in its help, the year 2004, but this program is 
not even now more than version 0.96 (or in upper right corner reads 0.97 ;)

The earlier exe program was MAnalyzer, where M is from meteors and after 
making the Java program was changed to JAnalyzer.
I do not mind if this is called JMAnalyzer, maybe in short "JMA".
( For this google finds "Japan Meteorological Agency" , "JMA consulting 
ky", "Jet Modellers Accociation", etc. )

Esko

PS. I found that Jeff Brower has these pages of the two radio-meteor 
programs.
http://www.bcmeteors.net/radio-methods/87-radio-detection-basics.html?start=2
http://www.bcmeteors.net/radio-methods/87-radio-detection-basics.html?start=3

2012-10-29 07:46, Bamm wrote:
> The program is great! Thanks for taking time to write it.
>
> I was wondering about the name "JAnalyzer". It has the same name as a
> major Java analysis toolkit. The website of the other JAnalyzer is
> here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jptoolkit/
>
> Are the two projects somehow related?
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Esko Lyytinen <esko.lyytinen at jippii.fi> wrote:
>> You can now download the JAnalyzer from:
>> http://lyytinen.name/esko/JAnalyzer.zip
>>
>> The zip contains the jar file and quick-start instructions, that I today
>> quickly wrote, and two example session files.
>> These examples are mutually similar except I now adjusted one for a more
>> wide screen (than I had previosusly in actual use), horizontally 1600 pixels
>> or bigger.
>>
>> These instructions are mainly for the use of predefined session files and
>> there are practically no instructions of how to make such. But I think that
>> looking the program selections and options etc, and with some testing even
>> this will not prove difficult without much instructions.
>>
>> Doing that minor modification, I also noticed this strange thing. I did this
>> modificaion with my Win 7 laptop.
>> Every time when this program automatically saves the more fast spectrum
>> image (now about once evry 40 minutes) the programs "stops to think" for
>> about 13 seconds and the next one starts 13 secondes later than the saved
>> ended. Also the 24 hour image (and porbably also the data frame for
>> counting) seems to loose this 13 seconds of data every time the program
>> saves that (or probably any) image.
>>
>> I did NOT notice such thing earlier and now went to check for old saved
>> images with the XP in which this has been in real use. No such data loss did
>> seem to happen there. That XP ís about as powerful (two core-) as this
>> laptop, but with even a lot less powerfull XP's no such thing has been seen.
>> I also tried to increase the priority of this, but with no help in this.
>> I don't know what this now does, maybe every time reads almost the whole
>> hard drive directories trough ?
>>
>> I hope that it does make this thing with Linux etc, probably and hopefully
>> not.
>>
>> Another thing that I now also noticed, that is not harmfull at all. I had
>> accidentally started two different JAnalyzers. It is not much of wonder that
>> both seemed to be running ok, but the thing that both seemed to get access
>> to the same soundcard microphone data simultaneously was something that I
>> did not expect. It is another thing if other operating systems and sound
>> cards will also allow this.
>>
>> Acrually, even without this possible property, the pogram can be defined to
>> use more than one "Data Frame window" to simulaneously count as separate,
>> meteor of more than one station carriers, if both (all) are simultaneously
>> in the same USB or SSB audio band at more than about 150 Hz of each other.
>>
>> I will be glad to hear if this works in Linux'es ( Ubuntu .. ) etc or not
>> and also on other experiences. And I will try to give some moderate level
>> help if needed, if I can.
>>
>> Esko
>>
>>
>> Thanks! I'm looking forward to see the jar file so I can test it in Ubuntu.
>> :)
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Esko Lyytinen <esko.lyytinen at jippii.fi>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Jay,
>>
>> As told, the code is made by my son Olli, more or less according to what I
>> wanted.
>> ( There was a previous Windows exe program for the same purpose. This could
>> do practically the same thing for my meteor reception, but was much less
>> flexible. For example one could not change the narrow reception window
>> frequency.
>> You can see some details of this, including several "pieces" of the 24 hour
>> display and different programs comparison table, at Ilkka Yrjölä site:
>> http://www.kolumbus.fi/oh5iy/
>> Select from the left MS observing with VHF .... " .. in several places in
>> this longish windows..
>> This was also downloadable from there, and there still seems to be the link
>> "downloadable from here", but this leads to nothing.
>> Actully I do recommend rether to use the JAnalyzer even with Windows
>> computers.
>> )
>>
>> I would now prefer to give only the compiled program JAnalyzer.jar .
>>
>> If someone has real needs and/or plans to develop it further or correct
>> something, or get it working in a platform where it may not work, I think
>> that also the source code will be available to this, but then I must ask
>> Olli for permissions to this.
>>
>> I will have the jar file together with a sample ses file available in a few
>> days, possibly allready later today.
>>
>> coming back to this,
>> Esko
>>
>> Hello Esko
>>
>> Could you share where you got the Source Code for JAnalyzer or post the
>> Source Code like, for instance, in code.google.com so we can use it?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Jay Salsburg
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org
>> [mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org] On Behalf Of Esko Lyytinen
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:05 AM
>> To: Meteor science and meteor observing
>> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) successfully Compiled the existing "METEOR" Code
>>
>>
>> Actually I do not know the METEOR program and the next may be somewhat
>> different from this, but I tell here on this anyway.
>>
>> I have had in use for may years the program JAnalyzer that works in Java and
>> consequently ought to work in diferent platforms with Java available.
>> I had it in my own use only in MS Windows, but others have tested this with
>> some Linux and also on Apple Macintosh. And they reported that it works ok.
>> This program was coded by my second son Olli.
>>
>> The program does not do sound-recording and playback. It creates visual
>> time-spectrum images and can automatically count meteors from (narrow
>> band) radio signal.
>>
>> Unfortunately there are not proper instructions for this. Maybe not a lot of
>> such are needed if one does not make his own definitions and only uses some
>> previously made definitions.
>>
>> It is quite flexible. One can have in simultaneous use spectrum images of
>> different time and frequency resolutions.
>> One, that I always have in use in the meteor reception with this is a 24
>> hour display with 48 rows half an hour each and with a frequency band of
>> (about) 50 Hz.
>> ( A very stable receiver is needed to use this display because of the narrow
>> band.) In addition more fast and more wide band displays can be used at the
>> same time and also have the counting of meteors.
>>
>> If there might be of interest, I could write some English instructions.
>> But this will not happen now very soon, because of other things.  (
>> Completing the instructions of the fb_entry program has beed delayed because
>> of the British grazer-fireball. For those interested on this program
>> (possibly allready downloaded it), I inform that this task is now advancing
>> further.)
>>
>> Just now this is not in use because I made some other tests with the
>> computer soundcard. But this has been working simultaneously with (a two
>> core PC) video-reception by mans of two program (from the sam video signal),
>> UFOCapture and VideoAnalyzer. The Janalyzer (with two different spectrum
>> windows and meteor counting) only takes about 2 % of the processor time (the
>> video programs together about 55 %).
>>
>> (As to that also mentioned VideoAnalyzer, this is in extensive use in our
>> Finnish Fireball Working Group, but probably not at all in abroad.
>> There are (unfortunately only) Finnish language instructions to this at:
>> http://petk.suntuubi.com/fi/VideoAnalyzer/
>> )
>>
>> Esko
>>
>>
>> Would you know if this will run in Wine under Linux?
>>
>> If not, is there a tutorial to write a similar meteor counter app in
>>
>> Ubuntu?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Jay Salsburg <jsalsburg at bellsouth.net>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I successfully Compiled the existing "METEOR" Code into a Windows
>> Console EXE using FreeBasic.
>> http://www.amsmeteors.org/mallama/mallama11.html
>>
>> Because my computer does not have the legacy A to D card the program
>> expects, it does not work correctly but it runs, processing False
>>
>> Triggers.
>>
>> In addition to this, I created an executable "Audio Recorder" in VB6
>> that runs on XP and Win7. Hopefully, I can migrate the "METEOR" Code
>> into the Audio Recorder to create a new hybrid App that will run on Newer
>>
>> Hardware.
>>
>> In my last correspondence, I made a mistake. In haste I contributed
>> the METEOR program to Christian Steyaert. I was mistaken.
>>
>> The Code is from Anthony Mallama dated 1996 and 1997.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jay Salsburg [mailto:jsalsburg at bellsouth.net]
>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 12:02 AM
>> To: 'Meteor science and meteor observing'
>> Subject: adapt the Legacy Code named "METEOR by RADIO"
>>
>> I have been experimenting with creating a "Sound Recorder" App that
>> will work with XP to Win7 machines. The problem I faced was that
>> there is no fresh code that will work on both Windows OS and compile
>> on the same Compiler. I solved the problem by abandoning the New
>> Visual Studio Compiler and reverting to Visual Basic 6 which is near
>> 10 years old. The Test successfully Compiles a Sound
>> Recording/Play-Wav/MP3 App that works on both XP and Win7. Next is to
>> start integrating the Contributed Code if possible, all the while,
>>
>> testing its function and utility on young Hardware.
>>
>> The reason to do this is to adapt the Legacy Code named "METEOR by RADIO"
>> published by Christian Steyaert at
>> http://www.amsmeteors.org/ams-programs/radio-observing/
>>
>> Jay Salsburg
>>
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