(meteorobs) Possible New Radiant - 11/02/13 - Mathias, WVa

[Esko Lyytinen]

Hi all,

I checked, that from these radiant directions the fastest possible 
velocity from a solar sytem orbit varies from about 46.5 km/s to 53.5 
km/s, depending on the exact radiant location, close to the values given 
by Bob. So there practically is no actual freedom to have more fast 
meteors from there.

And I also confirm the next email from George, along these lines also, 
now writing this, confirm his two emails.

Esko

> George and All,
>
> I searched the video radiants of the IMO and found a possible matching one with a location of 10:26 (156.6) +81, with a velocity of 43km/sec. Your radiant lies somewhat between this position and the SLD's mentioned by Esko. In both cases though these radiants have velocities less than 50km/sec. The Lyrids are in this velocity range and can still produce trains on its brightest meteors.
>
> Thanks for sharing your interesting observation!
>
> Bob
>
> ---- George Gliba <gliba at milkyway.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>         Screech Owl Hill Observatory, Mountain Meadows
>>                      Mathias, West Virginia
>>                       November 01/02, 2013
>>
>> Although it was partly cloudy most of the night it did clear
>> up beautifully and provided excellent transparency later.
>> The transparency reached 6.6 at times with an average of 6.5
>> for the hours that I formally observed meteors. It was so good
>> that the Winter Milky Way and the Zodiacal Band intersected
>> and made an 'X' in the morning sky. Earlier I saw a few nice
>> orange colored AND meteors, but saw none while I did my formal
>> meteor watching from 6:15 to 8:15 UT in the morning hours. We
>> also saw comet C/2013 R1 Lovejoy in 25x100 binoculars just after
>> midnight. It was easy to see at around 7th magnitude. It is a
>> fine comet and getting brighter.
>>
>> Unlike Paul Martsching at McFarland Park in Iowa the next night,
>> I saw fairly good Taurid meteor rates and swift bright meteors
>> coming from A POSSIBLE NEW METEOR RADIANT located at: 11.0 +75,
>> which was very close to the OCT radiant seen 27 days earlier.
>> Although they are probably not related, as they were similar in
>> brightness but not speed. These meteors were swift and several
>> left persistent trains! I am calling them NCT below. I saw seven
>> of them in two hours. Video and Radar observations that night
>> and nights around that time may show these meteors. Unfortunetly
>> I was unable to look for them the next night due to clouds, but
>> I did see a nice -5 sporadic fireball at 2:30 UT while observing
>> casually.
>>
>> 11/02/13 - FOV=8.0 +35, Facing East, Very Clear, 10% bldg. obst.
>>
>> Time (UT)  LM  Obst.NTA STA ORI EGE ZCN LEO NCT SPO Total Note
>> 6:15-7:15  6.5 10%   2   2   3   0   0   1   4   4   16   NCT?
>> 7:15-8:15  6.5 10%   4   3   1   0   1   4   3   7   23   NCT?
>>
>> Magn. Distributions 11/02/13, 10% bldg. obst. Very Clear
>> Recording Meteors from 6:15-8:15 UT, LM=6.5
>>
>>       -1   0   1   2   3   4   5  total  Ave.
>> NTA  1   0   1   1   1   2   1    6    3.2
>> STA  0   1   0   1   2   0   1    5    2.6
>> ORI  0   0   0   1   0   2   1    4    3.8
>> EGE  0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0    N/A
>> ZCN  0   0   0   0   1   0   0    1    3.0
>> NCT  1   0   2   2   2   0   0    7    1.6 !
>> LEO  0   0   0   3   1   0   1    5    2.8
>> SPO  0   0   1   3   3   3   1   11    3.0
>>
>> Starry Skies,
>> GWG
>>
>>
>>
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