(meteorobs) To: Dr. Tony Phillips

Tue Nov 19 12:00:14 EST 2013

Yes, I saw it and Lovejoy last Friday morning, Nov. 15th, locating them 
easily with
12x63 binoculars, then with the naked-eye with difficulty.  Both were 
about 5th
magnitude.

Starry Skies,
GWG

On 11/19/13 11:45 AM, Bill Smith wrote:
>
> Hi Anyone seeing ISON yet?  With naked eye?
>
> Bill Smith
>
> William E. (Bill) Smith
>
> 104 -- 1159 Beach Drive
>
> Victoria, BC V8S 2N2 Canada
>
> Tel : +1-250-598-6692
>
> Mob: +1-250-896-9926
>
> wesmith at outlook.com
>
> *From:*meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org 
> [mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org] *On Behalf Of *Raydel Abreu 
> (CM2ESP)
> *Sent:* November 18, 2013 6:07 AM
> *To:* Meteor science and meteor observing; Meteor science and meteor 
> observing
> *Subject:* Re: (meteorobs) To: Dr. Tony Phillips
>
> Wow Jay,
>
> I really hope you can continue with that project. It would be great if 
> it can be received here in Cuba, but I guess your location is too far 
> from me.
>
> Good luck on the project.
>
> Raydel
>
> 2013/11/15 Jay Salsburg <jsalsburg at bellsouth.net 
> <mailto:jsalsburg at bellsouth.net>>
>
>     Hello Raydel
>
>     I am still investigating installing a Beacon at a Farm in my area.
>     I have access to a Farm about 40 miles away. It is possible to
>     operate a Beacon at 50 MHz (100 Watts) without a permit. This has
>     intrigued me for many years and I am highly motivated to install
>     this device. If anyone reading this has advice, please express
>     your thoughts.
>
>     I have no experience monitoring echoes reflected by Analog TV
>     transmitter, but I do have years experience monitoring echoes from
>     the NAVSPASUR transmitter, along with a good understanding of RADAR.
>
>     I can guess the reflections off a TV Transmitter must be Doppler
>     noisy, even though strong reflections are possible, that
>     reflection's DOPPLER signal would be non monotonic or rather
>     indistinct in frequency. Also, I am guessing, it should be
>     possible to discern the attributes you mention in your post, but
>     the signal return would not be very frequency specific. Probably
>     the only practical reason to use an Analog TV Transmitter for
>     forward scatter meteor detection would be only for logging
>     activity and not the character of the activity, at least for
>     automated logging.
>
>     For forward scatter meteor detection, powerful Transmitters must
>     be more than 40 miles away, ideally 90 to 150 miles away. In my
>     case, the NAVSPASUR Transmitter was 300 miles away, but it was so
>     powerful, I could still receive significant activity at an antenna
>     angel of about 25 degrees above the horizon. This shallow angle
>     and extreme distance, however, had an advantage, it did not
>     receive much unwanted reflections from aircraft.
>
>     *From:*meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org
>     <mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org>
>     [mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org
>     <mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org>] *On Behalf Of *Raydel
>     Abreu (CM2ESP)
>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:51 AM
>     *To:* Jean-L. AGR; Meteor science and meteor observing
>     *Subject:* Re: (meteorobs) To: Dr. Tony Phillips
>
>     Hello all,
>
>     I listen to the streaming mentioned for a few minutes while
>     checking the audio on SpectrumLab.
>
>     One thing caught my attention... I could say almost 99.9% was zero
>     doppler "trail" echoes.
>
>     However, with my current TV system (61.240 MHz) I got almost 90%
>     high doppler slanted "head" echoes, several ones with both "head"
>     and "trail" echoes, and just a few "trail" only. Also in my system
>     the echoes are all with different positions plus and minus offset
>     of the weak direct carrier I sometimes see.
>
>     So, as there is still a lot of theory I don't know can please
>     someone explain me better the difference between that signals and
>     what I get? Perhaps the meteors of the streaming are from a very
>     distant location in reference from the receiver. While in
>     comparison my system is too close to transmitter, or is it opposite.?
>
>     Few captures my system  from this evening. Time is UTC:
>
>     https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5i7c6y511ioicr/2013111410_0307.jpg
>     https://www.dropbox.com/s/0nvzpc3fzzo5qw0/2013111407_0523.jpg
>     https://www.dropbox.com/s/i4aadmi5vra2czz/2013111405_0538.jpg
>
>     Kind Regards,
>
>     Raydel, CM2ESP
>
>     Havana, Cuba
>
>     2013/11/14 Jean-L. RAULT <f6agr at orange.fr <mailto:f6agr at orange.fr>>
>
>     It is a very interesting and fascinating example of LDEs (Long Delayed
>     Echoes)
>
>     Jean-Louis Rault
>
>
>
>
>     )Le 13/11/2013 20:58, Jay Salsburg a écrit :
>     > From: Jay Salsburg
>     >
>     > To: Dr. Tony Phillips
>     >
>     > http://topaz.streamguys.tv/~spaceweather/
>     <http://topaz.streamguys.tv/%7Espaceweather/>
>     >
>     > What is this page Streaming? The audio greeting (for this site)
>     claims to be
>     > streaming the audio of Meteors from the NAVSPASUR Space Fence
>     RADAR in
>     > Texas, which is no longer transmitting.
>     >
>     >
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