(meteorobs) Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Meteors from Aries / Cetus?

Fri Aug 29 09:13:58 EDT 2014

I wasn't able to get out and observe last night, but even though we both 
saw a
few from this area, they still most probably were sporadics.  The two 
hours that
I noticed a possible radiant association with 4 meteors I also saw 16  
sporadic
meteors!  Unless other observers saw this suspected radiant too I am 
still going
to call them sporadics, which means I saw 20 sporadic meteors in two 
hours. This
time of the year we are going into the highest sporadic rates. So, this 
makes it
especially hard to see a minor radiant visually unless the hourly rate 
is at least 4
or 5 per hour.

Starry Skies,
GWG

On 8/29/14 4:55 AM, pzeller1966 wrote:
>
> I just thought I'd add that the position I gave for where I thought 
> the radiant might be (if these weren't sporadics) was just a guess. 
> I'm very much a newbie at this. I hadn't tried to do scientific visual 
> meteor observing, using the IMO guidelines, until this year. This is 
> also the first year I've tried to do plots using the BRNO Atlas. I 
> wanted to get out and observe again tonight, but Indianapolis is 
> cloud-covered, naturally!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "George Gliba" <gliba at milkyway.gsfc.nasa.gov 
> <mailto:gliba at milkyway.gsfc.nasa.gov>>
> Date: Aug 28, 2014 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Fwd: Re: Meteors from Aries / Cetus?
> To: <meteorobs at meteorobs.org <mailto:meteorobs at meteorobs.org>>, 
> "William J Cooke" <william.j.cooke at nasa.gov 
> <mailto:william.j.cooke at nasa.gov>>
> Cc:
>
>
> OK, I just played back my meteor observing tape from August 26th morning
> and I DID see 4 of them for sure!  Usually I make comments of any 
> suspected
> radiants and report them if I see 5 or more in two hours. As I saw 4 I 
> didn't,
> but they are from the same reported Aries-Cetus region!  The actually 
> data is:
>
> August 26th
>
> 04:22 UT    3rd magn.     white       fast          from Aries-Cetus 
> region
> 05:40 UT    2nd magn.    white   2 sec. train   from Aries-Cetus region
> 06:02 UT    1st  magn,    yellow      swift          from Aries-Cetus 
> region
> 06:18 UT    2nd magn,     white  2 sec. train   from Aries-Cetus region
>
> LET"S GET OUT AND LOOK TONIGHT AND TOMORROW NIGHT!
>
> Starry Skies,
> GWG
> ================================================
> On 8/28/14 4:15 PM, George Gliba wrote:
>>
>> Actually,  I did also notice a few meteors (3 or 4) from the Aries 
>> area two nights earlier,
>> on August 26th, but reported them as sporadics.  I assumed they were 
>> sporadics, but after
>> reading your report I am reconsidering.  Mostly because, chance 
>> alignments becomes
>> less likely when meteors from another site far away, which sees 
>> different meteors, also
>> has the same apparent radiant.  Then the conditions become less 
>> likely for random chance
>> alignments.   Fortunately, I haven't erased my tape yet. I think it 
>> is worth video and radar
>> observers checking into for sure.
>>
>> Starry Skies,
>> GWG
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/14 3:59 PM, pzeller1966 wrote:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "pzeller1966" <pzeller1966 at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:pzeller1966 at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Aug 28, 2014 3:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Meteors from Aries / Cetus?
>>> To: "Robert Lunsford" <lunro.imo.usa at cox.net 
>>> <mailto:lunro.imo.usa at cox.net>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for the reply! I'll report them as Sporadic. I'm still 
>>> hoping to catch one of those rare unexpected meteor outbursts some 
>>> clear night when no shower is expected.
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2014 2:47 PM, "Robert Lunsford" <lunro.imo.usa at cox.net 
>>> <mailto:lunro.imo.usa at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Using the IMO's analysis of 1,063,057 video meteors recorded
>>>     between January 1993 and December 2011, the closest matches to
>>>     your location were two very weak radiants located at 41.7 +5.5
>>>     56.0 km/sec and 56.5 +25.5 71.0 km/sec.
>>>
>>>     Therefore your meteors do not belong to any known shower.
>>>
>>>     Robert Lunsford
>>>
>>>
>>>     ---- pzeller1966 <pzeller1966 at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:pzeller1966 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>     >   I was out observing and plotting meteors under very clear
>>>     conditions (for
>>>     > my back yard) between 7:30 - 9:00 UT August 28. I just wanted
>>>     to mention
>>>     > that three of the meteors seen tonight seemed to share
>>>     velocity (swift to
>>>     > very swift) and possibly had a common radiant between Aries
>>>     and the "Tail"
>>>     > of Cetus, roughly 03h +15. One meteor was +1 mag. while two
>>>     were +2 mag.
>>>     > They may have been sporadic of course, but I thought I'd
>>>     report this just
>>>     > in case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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