(meteorobs) new meteor shower

Fri Jan 3 04:10:46 EST 2014

 Hi to all,

I know that all meteor observers are focused to Quadrantids tonight.
But I call all observers, visual and photographic, to give attention for any meteor coming from a radiant located in Cassiopeia.
It is possible to be a new meteor shower that must be confirmed. I observed last year on January 3 a -5 mag fireball (captured with my Canon 50D camera, too) and other 4 meteors coming from same area.
The elements are here (radiant position and velocity):
α =332.8°, δ = 55.8° and VG = 13.5 km/s (Jeremie Vaubaillon) 
or 
α =20°, δ =58° and VG = 16.4 km/s (Central European Meteor Network)
Period of interest for observations is December 30 - January 6.

I am interested for any report concerning this position.
Thank you!

Valentin
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On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:28 AM, pzeller1966 <pzeller1966 at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for all the input, everyone. I'm going to try to do meteor observing any clear nights I get in 2014, whether I have pristine and moonless sky conditions or not. I guess my main concern was this; if I have a night where I only have a LM of 4.0 - 5.0 and I try to send a report to the IMO, is there any value to such a report or will it just go into a trash can? :) Good observing to you all! And Happy New Year! 
  Paul Z
  Indianapolis, IN USA
On Dec 29, 2013 2:13 PM, "Jay Salsburg" <jsalsburg at bellsouth.net> wrote:

Ask yourself (a generalization) if what you are doing is “Science.” The questions you must ask yourself to do “Science” applies to any activity engaged in Design, discovering Concepts, or uncovering Principles…
>-------------------------
>First we Guess; then…
>We Compute the Consequences of the Guess to see what it would imply; then…
>We Compare the Computation results to Nature, or Compare to Experiment, or Compare to Experience… of direct observation; to see if it works.
> 
>If it Disagrees with Experiment, it is Wrong; this simple Statement is the “Key to Science;” it does not matter how beautiful the Computation, or Who expressed it, it is Wrong.
> 
>So the simple concept sequence is…
>Guess → Compute Consequences → Compare to Nature, Experiment, and Experience.
> 
>If your scientific activity (experiment) is solely engaged in visual interpretation not using reliably-reproducible calibrated instrumentation applying widely accepted computation, your scientific engagement has not moved beyond the “Guess” stage with no chance of reaching a viable conclusion. Viable Conclusions are the product of Scientific Inquiry.
> 
>Instrumentation is any mechanism that pushes a needle, moves or plots a scale, or reacts indicating a force or forces.
> 
>http://www.salsburg.com/key/key.html
>http://www.salsburg.com/design_science/design_science.html
> 
>Design Science…
>Design Science is a problem solving approach which entails a rigorous, systematic study of the deliberate ordering of the components in our Universe. 
> 
>From:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org [mailto:meteorobs-bounces at meteorobs.org] On Behalf Of pzeller1966
>Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 7:03 PM
>To: Meteor science and meteor observing
>Subject: (meteorobs) A Visual Observing Question
> 
>  I have a question that I've been meaning to throw out to members of this mailing list. First, to give a little background, I've gotten more and more interested lately in making scientifically valuable visual observations of meteor showers; both major and minor showers. I've been reading about the methods used by the IMO for meteor counts and plotting. However, while reading through the material available online, I was a little disappointed to find out that visual observing is discouraged if the limiting magnitude of the sky is 5.0 or less. Years of amateur astronomy have taught me that my most transparent skies from my back yard let me see stars as low as 4.5 - 4.8 magnitude with the naked eye. I can very rarely see stars to 5.0 and my very best, darkest nights have let me see stars to 5.2 magnitude. However, nights like this are very rare! I've thought about trying to find a better observing site further from the city lights, but this doesn't help
 if the night has moonlight. I guess my question is this ... Can any useful visual observing be done on nights when the limiting visual magnitude is 4.0 - 4.5 or so? Useful enough to report to the IMO or other groups like NAMN? All replies are welcome. 
>  Thanks and good observing to all of you.
>  Paul Z.
>  Indianapolis IN USA
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