(meteorobs) Fwd: {MPML} Omicron Draconids

[george]

> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Thomas Dorman <drygulch_99 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: {MPML} Omicron Draconids
> Date: July 28, 2016 at 2:11:04 PM EDT
> To: george <gwgliba at gmail.com>, "dskillman at comcast.net" <dskillman at comcast.net>, "uuplink at gmail.com" <uuplink at gmail.com>, Steve C Bilanow <sbilanow at comcast.net>
> Cc: "bas at lowell.edu" <bas at lowell.edu>, Meteor science and meteor observing <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>
> Reply-To: Thomas Dorman <drygulch_99 at yahoo.com>
> 
> George
> Thanks for the reply.
> Just off the top of our head  the Omicron Draconids are probably a compact weak multi streams shower, good chance caused by a comet break up. Mostly like  has little out burst above the shower's normal meteor levels from time to time over active period. Just thinking out loud on this feel free to throw rocks. ;O) 
> Wish we could have observed it longer but clouds came back. Do know of the  July Gamma Draconids but very sure of the area we were observing and since the meteor trails were short believe strongly we were looking close up near the radiant and that would have put this meteors coming from area near Omicron Draconis. Just our view from the peanut gallery.
> Thanks to all for the help, your time, and replies.
> Regards
> Thomas
> 
> 
> On Thursday, July 28, 2016 11:15 AM, george <gwgliba at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wasn’t out then, but this is interesting.  Usually three meteors isn’t significant unless it is in a short
> time period, which the ones drygulch saw were.  They also may have been from the July gamma 
> Draconids, whose radiant is about 9 degrees away.  It is possible, as 9 degrees is within the average 
> visual observational error if you aren’t plotting them on a star chart as you observe them. They could 
> also be Omicron Draconids as well.
> 
> In fact, I may have seen some at Mountain Meadows, WV last year about a week earlier,  See:
> 
> http://lists.meteorobs.org/pipermail/meteorobs/2015-July/017777.html <http://lists.meteorobs.org/pipermail/meteorobs/2015-July/017777.html>
> 
> Starry Skies,
> GWG
> 
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> > On Jul 28, 2016, at 7:46 AM, dskillman at comcast.net <mailto:dskillman at comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > George - thought this might interest you - Rick
> > 
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> > Subject: Re: {MPML} Omicron Draconids
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:11:04 -0700
> > From: Brian Skiff bas at lowell.edu <mailto:bas at lowell.edu> [mpml] <mpml-noreply at yahoogroups.com <mailto:mpml-noreply at yahoogroups.com>>
> > Reply-To: bas at lowell.edu <mailto:bas at lowell.edu>
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> > To: drygulch_99 at yahoo.com <mailto:drygulch_99 at yahoo.com>
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> > On Wed, 2016-07-27 at 16:24 -0700, drygulch_99 at yahoo.com <mailto:drygulch_99 at yahoo.com> [mpml] wrote:
> > 
> >> Just wondering if any one has noticed  any meteors coming from the
> >> area around Omicron Draconis. Saw three meteors last night in about a
> >> three minute period coming from this area.
> >> 
> >    I think the criteria for defining meteor showers (even short-lived or transient events) are much more rigorous
> > than in the past, thanks to numerous all-sky networks now
> > operating worldwide, accurately recording millions of meteors.
> > You might want to visit the relevant IAU site:
> > 
> > https://www.ta3.sk/IAUC22DB/MDC2007/index.php <https://www.ta3.sk/IAUC22DB/MDC2007/index.php>
> > 
> > ...and the International Meteor Organization:
> > 
> > http://www.imo.net <http://www.imo.net/>
> > 
> > ...to see what sorts of things are going on.
> >    The IAU page does have an entry for omicron Draconids:
> > 
> > https://www.ta3.sk/IAUC22DB/MDC2007/Roje/pojedynczy_obiekt.php?kodstrumienia=00088&colecimy=2&kodmin=00217&kodmax=00357&sortowanie=2 <https://www.ta3.sk/IAUC22DB/MDC2007/Roje/pojedynczy_obiekt.php?kodstrumienia=00088&colecimy=2&kodmin=00217&kodmax=00357&sortowanie=2>
> > 
> > The shower does seem to be a confirmed one (see the 2016
> > Icarus paper by Peter Jenniskens et al), but the coordinates may be somewhat different than what's
> > given in the Gary Kronk page.
> > 
> > 
> > \Brian
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > Posted by: Brian Skiff <bas at lowell.edu <mailto:bas at lowell.edu>>
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