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Re: (meteorobs) Radiant in DRA/CYG ? (June 18-19)
At 20:08 14-08-96 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 96-08-13 06:08:21 EDT, you write:
>
><< Hello George,
>
> Not quite sure what you mean. In my WGN article I clearly stated that you
> issued your report 'a few days before' [15/16 June], and certainly did not
> state that you viewed it on June 15/16. The reference in my article is to
> the mail in which you pointed that (your earlier report) out to me: I didn't
> have the mail of june 11/12 at my disposal since I have no internet/e-mail
> connection myself (unfortunately): all my mailing is via Casper ter Kuile,
> who I visit quite a lot and telephone quite a lot (I actually only knew of
> your mail by telephonic contact with Casper!). I went for a month of
> archaeological fieldwork in Britain only a few days after June 15/16, so I
> didn't have the time to check things out to all extends
>
> Kind regards (and good luck with observing),
>
> -Marco
> PS: that mail of June 12 was probably lost here since at that time Casper's
> e-mail provider broke down, or otherwise it drowned in the host of mails
> from those days.
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>Marco...
>I apologize for saying that you erred in the WGN article...I didn't read it
>carefully...only skimmed it as I just about did everything since I began my
>Perseid campaign. It seems that I have about 28 hours worth of things to do
>within a 24 hour day since then. Anyhow, I didn't realize that you were
>referring to my second observation on the night of June 15/16 at the
>beginning of your second paragraph on page 118 of WGN. I thought you were
>interpreting that as my first observation...you did however clear it up later
>in the paragraph. You were correct as you wrote it...I just mis-read it thru
>a groggy head. Last night was my 6th and last night of my Perseid campaign
>and I'm a little more rested, but not as complete as I will be when I get a
>full nights sleep in my bed at home tonight. I cut my campaign short by 2
>nights...mainly due to fatigue and for the sake of my two daughters whom I
>have to drag around to grandma's house to sleep each night. It's been hard on
>them as well...and as a worn out parent, I felt the difficulties I placed on
>them as well. Needless to say...they were tickled pink when I told them that
>last night was my last night of observing for a few weeks. Now I got to a lot
>of catching up...email, reports, and doing things with the girls....they are
>both teenagers (13 and 16) and they have a list of things they would like
>for me to take them to etc. I still haven't read your article thoroughly and
>it does appear interesting...I will eventually. Just want to say that I
>jumped the gun in trying to correct you. One thought about it has occurred to
>me...that is, perhaps what Bob and I saw on the 11/12 and 15/16 and what the
>Italians reported for June 18/19 are merely a possible weak shower's normal
>period of activity while what you observed were probably it's short lived
>peak? This is a bit over simplifying it at the moment, but that's my
>immediate impression. I believe Gary Kronk is putting together an article
>about this possible radiant from his various source of archival data. It
>will be interesting to see his finished product? later and keep up the good
>reporting.
>George Zay
>
Hi George!
No problem, I was only amazed by your comment (not offended) and already
thought that you might not have read it too well. Anyhow, I know the effects
of an observational campaign on your sense of awareness: fatigue kills clear
thinking. Being only 26 and single I don't know the effects of two teenager
daughters, but I can imagine a little bit those effects. Anyhow, personal
and family life is always more important than some lights travelling through
starry skies. Be carefull not to ruin your health by trying to combine too
much things (I know from hard experience how that can work out...): you
sound a little bit like being near the edge...
I haven't been able to observe as much as I would like too so far. Of
course, during maximum weather has been bad (see earlier reports), but in
addition my studies consumed much time and I had to go (and still am going)
through a series of hospital checks too which take time and are not pleasant
(as is the reason for them). Coming night will probably be lost due to 'Gup'
(hazy weather), but sunday on monday night might be good. We plan to due
some observing including multistation photography then: our team will be at
our dark site Biddinghuizen then. That will be my first Perseids this year!
About Xi Draconids: might well be that you and Bob and the Italians saw a
background component. The alpha Monocerotids seem to have such a low
background component too (see our article in the Astroph. Journal,
forthcoming). Quite some people independantly have coupled my observations
to the 1966 June Lyrids. Might well be that this is indeed the same stream.
Looking forward to see what Gary Kronk comes up with.
Good Luck!
-Marco
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