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Re: (meteorobs) Star Counting



Well, getting below 7.5 is a problem I'll never have in NJ!!
And as for having to count twice or 3 times, better that than  having the 
counting of limiting mag areas be your only activity for the hour, like 
those long and lonely spring days :->
I haven't counted Taurus yet (Still down in our annoying skyglow zone)- 
can't wait.
Wayne
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From Lew Gramer <dedalus@latradedot com>, on 8/20/96 4:34 PM:
To: "Meteor Observing Mailing List" <meteorobs@latradedot com>

I agree very strongly with Bob's observation re: star counts. In fact what 
makes 
the counts so frustrating for me when I'm at a dark site, is the necessity 
of 
restarting the count, sometimes two or three times running, because I catch 
a 
meteor that needs plotting or recording mid-way through the count. To avoid 
errors, this always leads me to restart the count.

And per NAMN recommendations, I do this for at least two, and sometimes 
three 
different fields, roughly every half hour to hour! The result, especially 
on a 
night like the Perseid max, is that "1 minute" counts can end up covering 
15 or 
20 minutes... Maybe necessary for accuracy, but certainly not much fun. :(


(And double-counting only compounds this problem!) Coincidentally, I did 
find 
the Taurus LM triangle to be relatively easy to count: that's how I managed 
to 
recount it no less than *four* times, before noting the official star 
count.

It's true that it is a pretty long-sided triangle, but the three boundary 
stars 
are very easy to pick out: with my trusty train-cord in hand, lining up the 
boundaries of the star-count region is fairly easy. Thus I'm pretty 
confident of 
my star count for that region, precisely because:
	a. it was a new region for me to count, so I was very cautious about
           both the boundary and the count; and,
	b. I was so amazed at the result (after curiosity luckily caused me to
           check the table for the corresponding LM), that I couldn't 
believe
           it at first, and redid it several times...

And by the way, in answer to George's question, no, I don't where glasses 
while 
observing. Puzzling, perhaps, but that is what I observed that night! Of 
course, 
as we all know, when the data doesn't fit our preconceived notions (in this 
case 
about limiting magnitudes), the appropriate response is to CONFIRM that 
data and 
then maybe change our ideas - NOT to toss the data out as anomolous... ;>

Thanks to Trond, Mark, Bob, and Casper for their feedback, not to mention 
their 
"hints" (:>) that I fill out the low end of these tables myself with the 
AAVSO 
atlas... If I think I'll be getting down to the Keys more often for my 
observing 
(God willing), I will definitely do exactly that! Thanks again all!

Clear skies all,
Lew