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Re: (meteorobs) Observing the Arietids-Triangulids



I was pondering doing some telescopic/binocular observing for some period 
of time myself, as an experiment. I guess that's worth attemping?It will 
not be my primary focus(pun intended- we're tied 1-1:-)
since I will be tri-ing (that's 2) to refine my plotting skills and this 
seems like a useful opportunity. Any suggestions where I might point my 
optical assisters from those with more detailed knowledge of the suspected 
radaints?
Wayne
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Original Text
From Gary Kronk/Medlib/Washington University <Gary_Kronk/Medlib/Was, on 
8/22/96 5:55 AM:
To: "MeteorObs" <MeteorObs@latradedot com>

FROM too long. Original FROM is 'Gary Kronk/Medlib/Washington University 
<Gary_Kronk/Medlib/Washington_University@msnotes.wustldot edu>'

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George, your letter has very good points, but let me add a couple of 
things. 

First, of all the fourth magnitude meteor was hypothesized based on my 
observing conditions. I have seen a very small percentage of 5th-magnitude 
meteors during 23 years of observing, because of my typical limiting 
magnitude 
of 5.5-6. A quick check through my observing logs reveals that the 
5th-magnitude meteors were all apparently seen when they were directly in 
my 
line of sight. So, instead of saying 4th-magnitude meteors while I was at 
work 
yesterday, I will revise that number to 5th-magnitude after checking my 
logs 
this morning. For you it might be 6th-magnitude meteors. It really does not 
matter. The fact is a faint meteor in any observer's observing conditions 
is 
more difficult to see when not directly in your line of sight. 

Second, the "10 degree" length was a bad choice on my part, but then I 
never 
said just how far it was from the radiant now did I?  :-) Nevertheless it 
is 
still much shorter than the long-trailed meteor, so it basically comes down 
to 
personal terminology. The number could easily be decreased to a degree or 
two. 
The fact still stands that it is easier to see a faint meteor when closer 
to 
the radiant because of the foreshortening of the path. Basically it comes 
down 
to more photons gathering on the cones within your eye. If you are looking 
at a 
radiant, meteors from that radiant would more likely be in your line of 
sight 
and very accurate plotting and, subsequently, the precise location of the 
radiant would be better noted. This region of the sky is interesting 
because a 
slight drift in the declination has some very interesting effects on the 
orbital inclination of the stream. To everyone I need to emphasize, WE NEED 
TO 
VERY PRECISELY DETERMINE THIS RADIANT. (Remember, this is emphasizing, NOT 
yelling   :-)   ). 

I will personally be observing this radiant with either 7x35 or 7x50 
binoculars, as I am very interested to see how abundant the fainter meteors 
are. I am hoping to catch some stationary or at least some very 
short-trailed 
meteors so that the radiant can be pinpointed. Therefore, for this goal, I 
need 
to have the radiant area within the field of view. 

Gary