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  George,

  What bothers me about your "analysis" and last e-mail?

  1. Your previously defined attitude about the A-T's:

  On 1995 August 19, Kevin asked you a simple question about the A-T's and
  you responded on 1995 August 20 with, "No real radiant...probably best to
  not favor any possible radiant at this stage." Considering that on the
  latter date you also wrote to Marco Langbroek and wrote, "I really don't
  know too much about this possible radiant," it would seem you were not in
  a position to judge the radiant that way. Considering that extensive
  articles were written about this stream and published in WGN and Meteor
  News, you need to do a little more reading on a subject instead of
  winging it.

  2. Your "Scientific" Method:
  I am writing this at work and your response to me last night is currently
  at home, but I believe you mentioned something along the lines of maybe I
  was wishing too hard for the A-T's to be real and something about my
  scientific methods for studying this stream is not based on observations
  by experienced observers.

  Okay, here we go (deep breath taken here, considering much of what
  follows was withheld yesterday because I did not want to cause problems).




  Velocity questions:
   Those obtained for the Xi Draconids were exorbitant.


  Radiant questions:

    Date        RA     DEC    w      W      i     q      e      Desig
               274    +54    197.8  81.6  49.1  0.991  1.0      Zay
               280    +53    199.1  81.6  53.2  0.987  1.0      Lunsford
  1996/06/15   280    +55    196.3  84.5  52.2  0.995  1.0      Langbroek
               284    +54    198.3  87.9  54.2  0.990  1.0      Haver
               283    +58    191.9  88.0  52.8  1.005  1.0      Gorelli




  Desig.    Date RA   DEC  Long Observer
  1683a 1934, Sep. 10.0 34.0 +31.0 166.6 Smith, Franklin W. 1683b 1934,
  Sep. 11.0 33.0 +27.0 167.6 Smith, Franklin W. 4051 1940, Sep. 8.0 26.0
  +19.0 165.2 Khan, Mohd. A. R. 3058 1940, Sep. 12.3 36.0 +20.0 169.4
  Anderson, Paul 4592 1945, Sep. 9.7 32.0 +26.0 166.6 Komaki, Koziro 3111
  1950, Sep. 6.2 30.0 +23.0 163.0 Worley, Charles E. 3110 1950, Sep. 7.2*
  27.5 +21.0 164.0 Worley, Charles E. 3186 1951, Sep. 9.3 26.0 +32.5 165.8
  Knowles, Jeremy H. 3192 1951, Sep. 10.8 26.0 +27.0 167.3 Knowles, Jeremy
  H. 3413 1951, Sep. 13.3 27.0 +24.0 169.7 Worley, Charles E. 3415 1951,
  Sep. 15.3 31.0 +23.5 171.6 Worley, Charles E. 3888 1955, Sep. 13.3 29.5
  +20.0 169.7 Knowles, Jeremy H. 5507 1967, Sep. 11.8* 25.0 +29.0 168.3
  Menzel, R.
  *Means date was an average of two or more nights of observation.

  Kronk next searched through another extensive list of radiants that had
  been compiled by Cuno Hoffmeister in his 1948 book Meteorstrome. The
  following radiants were extracted.

  Desig.    Date RA   DEC  Long Observer
  747  1915, Sep. 12.9 35  +21  169  Hoffmeister
  1075 1921, Sep. 9.0 34   +17  165.8 Hoffmeister
  1240 1923, Sep. 12.7 25  +25  168.9 Hoffmeister
  5086 1929, Sep. 9.6 33   +34  166.4 Richter
  2273 1934, Sep. 10.0 23  +29  166.6 Hoffmeister
  2716 1936, Sep. 10.5 37  +29  167.6 Hoffmeister
  4141 1937, Sep. 7.0 32   +27  164.0 Hoffmeister