Earlier note about GWG: I am incorrect and withdraw the comment. Did the same thing myself. Thought we were replying to Lew's personal address. The digest did arrive a moment ago. Concerning how many Geminids to see 9-10 PM Dec 12, I would expect up to 20 here in fully dark sky. Jonathan has a rather bright city sky, so I would guess 5 to 8 This is the night of fainter meteors. Norman