In a message dated 97-09-02 22:04:48 EDT, you write: << The two meteors had exactly the same speed. It appears that if I look at other plots, I might be able to reach a verdict. Jonathan >> ----------------- I think I will call this "shower" the Jonathanids. It kinda reminds me when Bob and I observe and see a sporadic...these are refered to as nothingnids. George Zay