In a message dated 98-06-10 12:03:34 EDT, you write: << With the light pollution around my neck of the woods (eastern megalopolis directly between New York and Washington DC with Philadelphia thrown in for good measure) I am happy to see anything more than a +3 LM sky. >> Another Easterner with crappy skies like me - WooHoo. I know, I know, but misery does love company. a mag +3 NYC dweller, Kevin