In a message dated 98-08-18 12:01:36 EDT, you write: << A good spot is http://www3.MapsOnUs.com/bin/maps-map/usr=~new >> This is the site I use. Find your street (or area) and then on the bottom there is a section where it says "clik on map to...." and it gives about a half dozen choices. Look for the Long/Lat choice. Kevin