In a message dated 98-10-08 07:07:27 EDT, you write: << Went out from 0000 UT till 0200 UT Oct.7/8. Thin to heavy cirrus but enough breaks to keep watching, no meteors seen from the Draconids. Saw 4 planes, 2 satellites, 1 seagull! >> Did you plot them? GeoZay