The average Orionid meteor magnitude that I gave was for all 85 Orionds seen on both the 23/24 and 24/25. When I do the same hours (4:40 to 6:40 UT) for both nights, which is virtually the same radiant altitude, it shows a magnitude decrease as Bob Lunsford suggested. October 23/24, 1998 4:40 to 6;40 UT LM=6.35 average Orionid 2.6 magn. 24/25, 1998 4:40 to 6:40 UT LM=6.50 average Orionid 2.9 magn. GWG