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Re: (meteorobs) Meteors, UFO's & lack of knowledge...
Dear Lew ..... Dear George
Please have a heart....why argue? Life is just too short as it is...the
newspapers are filled with so much pain... television and radio -- full of
pain and destruction. We must all get along in this world...and this
website is just that...getting along with the ENTIRE world. It's not just
like our backyard...this website is connected to the entire world to the
point where we should (and must) get along.
I don't open myself up that often, but when I do it must be for a very good
reason. Topics or little discussions come and go. Every day, every hour,
brings a new piece of information, something of interest, and this website
in informative, entertaining, knowledgable and sometimes just down right out
fun. Let's keep it fun, please. Whether we are amatures or professionals
with regards to astronomy, isn't it just plain darn fun to read the ENTIRE
worlds experience?
Thank you for listening.
Starr Hernandez (and that is truly my first name...no lie)
-----Original Message-----
From: GeoZay@aol.com <GeoZay@aol.com>
To: dedalus@latrade.com <dedalus@latrade.com>; meteorobs@jovian.com
<meteorobs@jovian.com>
Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Meteors, UFO's & lack of knowledge...
>From Lew>>Subj: Re: (meteorobs) Meteors, UFO's & lack of knowledge...
>Date: 99-06-17 15:51:46 EDT
>From: dedalus@latrade.com (Lew Gramer)
>To: GeoZay@aol.com (George Zay)
>CC: dedalus@latrade.com (Lew Gramerme)
>
>
>I have no time to debate you, George. My message can be translated
>as "Use common sense or get off this list." If you consider that
>censorship, that is your issue. Please do not follow this up.
>Lew<<
>
>--------------
>"Use common sense or get off this list"? In other words, since this is your
>list, free discussion about overlapping areas is just a myth. Sorry Lew,
but
>what I have posted in regards to UFO's and misidentified meteors and other
>phenomena etc has not been that far off topic to warrant censorship or your
>attitude towards me about it. It's been genuine discussion that does relate
>to meteor observing whether you want it to or not. If nothing else, it
>provides some basic knowledge to the uninformed about what to look out for
>while observing. This before they are guided by the really fringe groups
that
>are willing to provide off the wall explanations for normal events that
could
>be perceived differently. An example would be some movie footage that I
have
>often seen on the Discovery channel "Sightings" of an obvious daylight
meteor
>fireball falling behind a windmill that was implied to be a "flying saucer"
>of some kind. Now if I was trying to insist that meteors are actually
flying
>saucers piloted by little green (or grey) men, then I can see where you got
a
>valid point. But I'm not doing that. The areas I have been touching on are
>well within the realm of meteor interest. I recall similar discussions in
the
>past that you permitted...namely the discussions about Dark Meteors that
>would most certainly be within the realm of UFO's in the form that I'm
>discussing. Dark Meteors can be imagined to be anything by anybody, but at
>least don't ignore rationality and leave the poor snook to be imprinted
with
>only fringe explanations. Also you permitted extensive talks about the
crash
>of Flt. 800 where speculation that a meteor/or missile was the cause of
it's
>demise. If an object hit Flt. 800, it would definitely have to be
classified
>as a UFO until someone can determine what it was. UFO stands for
Unidentified
>Flying Object....not flying saucers unless you want it to. At Air Force
>bases, they actually have someone designated as a UFO officer. I tend to
>think he's not really in charge of flying saucers, but other aircraft,
birds,
>meteors etc that may interfere with aircraft flight. Maybe you wouldn't
>personally find a discussion along these lines interesting, but there's
>probably others on the list that do and in some areas the UFO is a
>meteor...which is the topic of this list. Isn't one of the supposed
purposes
>of this list is to educate? You have established precedance for similar
talks
>in the past. Why the change? Probably because you got a beef with me and
>looking for any excuse to come down on me about. You will probably remove
me,
>but that would be blatant censorship without just cause that I'm sure
others
>would be interested in knowing about. I'll be curious to see if I'm still
>here by tomorrow. If not, it would appear that censorship on the meteorobs
>list is alive and well...if I am, it would appear that you have come to
your
>senses showing a litttle maturity.
>George Zay
>
>
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