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Re: (meteorobs) Re: Rob McNaught



I agree with Michelle.  There is no reason for this sort of material
flowing through the list and into everyone's mailbox.


At 12:39 PM 6/25/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Please Please enough of these arguments.
>I am new to this list I enjoy the education and learning I am acquiring.
>Hold back the anger and keep it to a more  professional manner.
>
>Michelle
>Pennsylvania
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>In a message dated 99-06-24 18:00:07 EDT, you write:
>
>Bob<< 
>  Speaking of insights were there not two founders of NAMN?
> Oh yes, I recall now, you have forgotton about that other fellow.<<
>
>Originally....no....just one and that was me.  I  had it started and 
>organized with people sending me reports  2 or 3 months before mark came
onto 
>aol. When he did he asked if I wanted to start a meteor organization with 
>him. Being polite I let him in as a co founder and never elaborated that I 
>already had it up and going. Originally it was known  as the Meteor Network. 
>After I let mark in, he suggested calling it North American Meteor Network. 
>Not wanting to discourage him, I agreed. A name change was insignificant at 
>that time. Before mark came on, I had wrote 4 or 5 meteor related articles. 
>At that time I would email them separately to each new member. Later after 
>mark came on, he put together the first NAMN metoer observers guidebook
based 
>upon those articles by mostly editing what I wrote and adding various IMO 
>tables in the back.  Later he got Gary Kronk to put it on his website. I was 
>given credit then, but after my departure from NAMN I see that I'm not
listed 
>as one of the founders. Also afterwards he redone the NAMN guidebook and put 
>his name only on it. Mostly just changing a word or two and calling it
his. A 
>couple of the chapters still has my name as the author, but I had a lot more 
>input into the other areas that bears only marks name. It would seem that 
>mark has been the one who have forgotten about the other fella. I still see 
>some very familiar screen names on the current NAMN mailing lists that I 
>enlisted prior to marks signing on. I'm sure they can attest to the above 
>sequence of events if necessary.
>
>bob>> By the way I typed the note to rob while sitting. It was an innocent
> pat on the back that you have turned into a mockery. In case you are
> not familar withthat word it means you have turned it into a joke.<<
>
>Rob does deserve a pat on the back. But the way you worded it, it was quite 
>syrupy and did come across like a joke to me. 
> 
>bob>> You smart alec comments concerning professionals are completely 
> tasteless. You are the one who needs to get a life and to stop posting 
> such garbage.<<
>
>I guess being truthful can appear tasteless to some? There are indeed lots
of 
>good professionals who mean well and try to intermingle with the amateurs, 
>but there are probably a lot more  that wouldn't "lower" themselves to get 
>involved with amateurs. A very common problem in a variety of sciences. 
>
> bob>>What are you trying to do, force Lew to ban you? He 
> has been very patient with you but you are definitely pushing him.<<
>
>I'm just telling it like it is whether it fits someone's party line or
not. I 
>see my messages are already being intercepted before being sent on. To the 
>best of my knowledge, none appear to be censored yet. They all have 
>eventually made it to the list....but I wouldn't be a bit surprised that if 
>all my postings will be kept off for whatever reasoning?
> 
> bob>>One last suggestion: Why don't you start a fishing list so that people
> who want to hear your fishing adventures can read them there. I do
> prefer sterile messages to ones that smell fishy!<<
>
>I'd think you would have a legit beef here if I sent messages that were
about 
>nothing but fishing....but a small side note or two mixed within the overall 
>post shouldn't be all that traumatic for most people. It's been frequently 
>done here by others in the past and most likely will carry on whether I'm 
>here or not. If my opinions and insights upset you or anyone else personally 
>so much, why don't you just delete my messages when you get them? Sure some 
>folks may wish not to read them, but I doubt everyone does?
> 
> GeoZay
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