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Re: (meteorobs) Is NAMN and the ALPO Meteor Section needed?

>>>>And, Kim, now that you are a member of AMS as well, you'll see Bob
Lundsford's unique monthly tables published in Meteor Trails that
graphically depict the active periods of each shower, along with
information on moonlight, and other valuable info.  No one else is
producing a planning product like that.

    I just wanted to add, that, having just recieved my very first issue of
Meteor Trails, I made a mistake in waiting to sign on to the AMS...Not only was
the information very useful, the three monthly observing calendars included are
truely useful and time-saving tools -- I know at a glance what is going on for
the month (day by day) and what nights are useful for observing (thanks to
Wayne Halley).  I strongly urge anyone who may be considering joining the AMS
-- for me, the calendars alone were worth the dues!
                                        (Bootid?) Outbursts,    Everyone
                                                                            Kim
S. Youmans


Jim Bedient wrote:

> At 02:51 PM 6/27/99 EDT, George tried to throw gasoline on the fire, but it
> fizzled:
>
> >Good answer Kim.  But isn't Mark the visual coordinator for both AMS and
> >NAMN? Are you suggesting that Mark is dragging his feet as the AMS Visual
> >coordinator and not while representing NAMN? <...yada, yada, yada>
>
> >kim>>Now that I have joined the IMO, I await to see if I get as much
> > up-to-the-minute info, alerts, and bulletins as currently provided by
> NAMN --
> > free of charge.<<
> >
> >Now that you are a member of IMO, you will notice that the bimonthly
> journals
> >you get will have the same long range information
>
> And, Kim, now that you are a member of AMS as well, you'll see Bob
> Lundsford's unique monthly tables published in Meteor Trails that
> graphically depict the active periods of each shower, along with
> information on moonlight, and other valuable info.  No one else is
> producing a planning product like that.
>
> >kim>>I have noticed also that Meteorobs comes under the auspices of NAMN
> > -- does it not?  Please point me to a similar service offered by the AMS,
> >ALPO,
> > or the IMO...<<
>
> It does not.  Lew is very clear on the fact that meteorobs is his
> independent creation, and not an organ of any organization.  Lew has a
> position on the AMS staff, but he still is careful to keep meteorobs
> separate.  Last spring, when he had to move meteorobs to another server,
> the AMS was ready sponsor meteorobs on our domain, but Lew found a donor in
> jovian.com to handle it.  There would be no point in AMS offering a
> similar, compteting service, that would truly be redundant.  IMO has an
> IMO-news list, but it's relatively inactive, I think due to the success of
> meteorobs.  The upshot is that we are all in this together, and do our best
> to complement each other's efforts, not obstruct or snipe.
>
> >The reasoning at the time was to keep the then floundering AMS from taking
> >control and essentially putting the squeeze on the newly formed NAMN.
>
> This is pretty funny.  George, you gotta make up your mind.  Depending on
> how you feel, the AMS was either "inactive", "floundering", "a broken-down
> car on the side of the road" or an evil empire capable of taking over NAMN.
>  I don't think we could take over anything... nor do we want to.
>
> Aloha,
>
> JB
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