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Re: (meteorobs) Zay vs Davis
Dear Mr. E.L. Jones:
I could never have said anything as wonderful as you. I'm sure most on this
list do feel your way.
Even us adults come here to learn. Just the other day on the way to work I
was thinking about the children who also come to learn. What about them???
It's bad enough that some children must see their own parents fight...that
they must see the bloody mess of school shootings, the news media,
newspapers, etc.
I "AM" an amature at all this observing of the sky. I "MUST" learn. I will
tell all on this list that I've learned to go beyond the 'fighting' by just
deleting those emails if I chose. But I will also add that I've learned
much!
The sky has been very cloudy here in Lizella, Georgia. Plus my job takes me
most days away from home until 10pm. So my job at this point gets into my
way for the most part. On the bright side of things...my husband just
surprised me with a Meade ETX-90EC Astro Telescope with Electronic
controller, computer, etc. On Christmas Day he gave me a Celestron 4.5"
Newtonian Telescope. I guess we are going to have to build an observatory
soon...seems like.
I'm interested in the sky in general. Perhaps I'm sort of not on the
correct list...but on the other hand...this list has taught me so much that
I'm very grateful. Just to listen to the entire world speak is a blessing to
me. It shows that we can live in harmony. I'm sorry if this is also off
topic. But I feel for the children and I want them to know that this is a
good list to be on. It's not a battle to the finish..dot it's full of wonderful
facts and interesting articles. And all the authors who come together just
to speak...isn't that truly amazing? It's good for the children of the world
to see that we all can speak on level ground.
Thank you,
Starr Hernandez
-----Original Message-----
From: E. L. Jones <jonee@epixdot net>
To: meteorobs@jovian.com <meteorobs@jovian.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Zay vs Davis
>Hello Citizens of Peyton Place!
>
>Mark...George...why don't you two kiss and makeup.... looks like you'd make
a good team to me.
>
>IF not --we need to get a fight promoter and go on "pay per view"
>
>I have found in communications that after a maximum of 3 exchanges of
"explanations" back and forth on a subject, that there is no new information
to be shared -- only hidden agendas to grind into each other's necks. So
right, wrong, or indifferent... you have been asked before to take these OFF
TOPIC monotonous monologues out the door. I expect to be ignored as you
have ignored others who have made a similar request, but I am now on record
and in the archives.
>
>You two are so emotionally invested in winning "debate points"-- that you
have lost perspective. Effective, interesting, and relavent information
left this thread a LONG while back. The audience which came originally has
moved on to Jerry Springer and you two are fighting in an empty stadium. So
while no one is looking quietly change over to an ON TOPIC issue and we'll
all be the better for it. I think I speak for most of the list in saying
We DON"T CARE about what you are debating--it is a personal attack and
therefore OFF TOPIC.
>
>IF you REALLY do care about meteors and the education and recruitment of
new observers, both of you need to walk away from this and all similar
threads. The members have already seen this argument for what it is.
Neither of you will lose face and the first one to walk away will probably
be seen as the more mature party.
>
>For the rest of the list who may have read this far, I do not relish the
parent role when talking to other adults. I care about the flow of relevant
communications on a topical list. I care that people who voluntarily
associate for related purposes on a special interest list get what they are
interested in-- be it Dog Breeding, Gourmet Cooking or Meteor Observing--.
A dog fight is not relavent here even if the dogs are named Pluto or Astro.
>
> George and Mark...... we are tired of your line-by-line "angels on a pin
head " debate and if you respect us you will not be so arrogant as to
suggest we just set up mail filters to avoid listening to them on Meteorobs.
>
><sigh>
>Elton Jones
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