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Re: (meteorobs) Re: Big Leonid Train Lit Up
I erred in my post (I was zombied-out, being up all night).
Jerry picture was a fireball near Orion (as it was setting in the west)
on the morning of the 17th:
http://www.skyphoto.com/comets/c23.htm
My image is of it's meteor-train (the date on my photo is incorrect,
it should be 17th. I went out on the evening/morning of 16th/17th):
http://www.comet-track.com/meteor/leonids98/debris/debris_85.jpg
You & Dave were discussing a fireball (near the zenith) the day before,
the morning of 16th.
Last year, I do remember hearing reports of strong activity (fireball
show), the 3 days centered about the predicted peak. Hopefully, we get
the same this year.
Bob
Robert Lunsford wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> I noticed the date on Jerry's picture said November 17. I saw the
> fireball on the morning of the 16th, the same date as your train
> picture.
I
>
> If this is the same fireball with the wrong date it appeared much higher
> in our sky, stating near the zenith and going toward the west ending
> perhaps still 50-60 degrees high in the west.
>
> Clear Skies!
>
> Bob Lunsford
>
>
> B Yen wrote:
> >
> > This must be the Leonid (taken at Anza Borrego):
> >
> > http://www.skyphoto.com/comets/c23.htm
> >
> > I was also at Anza Borrego. This thing "flashed" real strong (saw it
> > out of corner of my eye), & made me drop what I was doing. I pointed a
> > still camera, & got this picture of the dissipating meteor-train:
> >
> > http://www.comet-track.com/meteor/leonids98/debris/debris_85.jpg
> >
> > I also pointed my low-light B&W video camera at it. I still have to go
> > back and see what I got.
> >
> > Around 3-5 am activity picked up, and there were Leonids all over the
> > sky. Lots of them in the west.
> >
> > Robert Lunsford wrote:
> > >
> > > Dave & All,
> > >
> > > I did in fact see this event. It was an extraordinarily bright fireball
> > > which shot overhead toward the west and disappeared approximately half
> > > way up in the western sky. I was facing east and nearly got whiplash
> > > following the swift fireball as it shot behind me.
> > >
> > > The train lasted 11 minutes for me. It slowly became distorted, as most
> > > enduring trains become, due to the high altitude winds. For me it slowly
> > > faded into oblivion and as not seen again.
> > >
> > > It seems certain to me that Dave observed a train from another nearby
> > > meteor as there were many bright Leonids seen that morning. Dave,
> > > wouldn't you agree that this is a more likely scenario than having the
> > > same train become re-lit?
> > >
> > > Bob Lunsford
> > >
> > > Dave English wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In a resent private e-mail I realized I never related that the
> > > > big Leonid meteor on 16 Nov. '98, at 4h49m37sec, over San Diego
> > > > County, California, left a huge train that got lit up with another
> > > > meteor or perhaps an eletromagnetic discharge. All I can say is that
> > > > after I couldn't detect the train anymore, it became instantly visible
> > > > again several minutes later with light from within, just like a
> > > > thunderhead. I've never asked George Zay if he saw the train light up
> > > > too. He observes about fifty miles SE from me, so he may have seen a
> > > > meteor enter it or may have missed it while plotting another meteor. I
> > > > didn't see any sign of a meteor except for the "cloud" lighting up. Is
> > > > it possible that the ionized cloud could have caused high altitude
> > > > lighting?
> > > >
> > > > I would like to know what GZ would have to say and if Robert
> > > > Lunsford may have seen this event. George did say this was a -16 to
> > > > -19 magnitude meteor and that the train lasted for 8 1/2 minutes and
> > > > the time listed was his. Either way, it was an unsual sighting.
> > > >
> > > > Dave English
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