Is there a consensus on when we should start observations 10/17 on the East coast USA? What is the radiant rise time, and how much earlier is there a possibility of seeing possible "Skimmers"? Clear dark skies to all (Pleeeeeaaase!) John N To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'meteorobs' email list, use the Web form at: http://www.tiacdot net/users/lewkaren/meteorobs/subscribe.html