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(meteorobs) Re: Leonid max in Florida+more



Lew had a few questions for me, followed with my answers.

>BTW, Norm, I never compared notes with you on that final burst of activity
>during the 10:00-10:50 period! Did you see any of the short barrages I logged
>during that 50 minutes? 

I had some tight groups also, up to 5 in half a minute usually followed by
nothing for up to several minutes.  None simultaneous, either.  Leonids are
so fast it's hard to get 2 of them together, until you have rates beyond a
certain high level, naturally.

>Also, what was the time on your -6 fireball with 30
>second train? I had it as a -8, with 50 second train, being a little further
>South than you... 

My  -6 was at 435 AM EST  (935 UT).  I missed your  -8.  What was the color
on yours?  Mine was about 30o up in the west, so out over the Gulf of
Mexico.  Facing east with the clipboard held upright, I saw the paper turn
orange while looking at the sky.  I didn't get within 50o of the fireball,
turning around, before it ended -- the intense orange was easily seen anyway.

>Clear skies for the GEMs, and thanks again for all your on-phone help! :)

Glad to help out.

>PS: Did Joan enjoy the show? How did it compare to last year for her?

She thought it was a nice show but obviously not as spectacular with the
lack of bright ones.  I let her sleep the first 3 hours as she was not
rested before we went.  Waited until something began to happen.

Our longest meteor of the night was at 315 AM EST  (815 UT), a yellow  +2m
sporadic coming straight out of the north running along the meridian.
Started 50o up N, ended 10o past the zenith, covered 50 degrees in 6
seconds!  Joan got the last 4 seconds.  This was an eventful meteor, with a
3-degree wake and nebulous envelope around the head for the first 4 seconds
; then it disappeared completely, then reappeared as just a moving streak
about 5 degrees long going for 2 more seconds.  Probably the most unusual
one ever for Joan.  It was too fast to be a reentry, plus the characteristic
orange color was absent.


Pierre wrote, 

>This was the only method 
>I found I could still keep up with average rates of 30-40/min during 
>2:02-2:22. Even so, it was hard to keep up when simultaneous Leonids 
>would flash all over the sky.

I don't know why the 1966 Leonids were appearing at very even intervals for
me at 30/min, but it sure made recording a lot easier.  But I was in sky LM
only 5.8 so must have missed a bunch of fainter ones.  And I had none
simultaneous then either.


Scott Bierly wrote,

>Subject: Massive Fireball in PA in 1963-1967 timeframe
>
>Is anyone aware of such an object?  I witnessed this as a kid in PA, not
>sure exactly when (we  moved away in summer 1967).  At or after sunset,
>in my front yard, I recollect ...

When was the long fireball seen over the NE states in deep twilight around
then?  I forget the year but 1967 in the fall  comes to mind.  It was the
first one I recall that somebody actually got a movie of,  and it was shown
on national TV.  The movie showed a breakup into numerous fragments moving
slowly in a procession.  Direction was roughly south to north.  But there
was no mention of sound as Scott described.

To wrap this up, I saw the nova in Aquila around 7 PM EST, Dec 2.  Appears
mag  +4, whole number only.  Binoculars gave me a strong yellow color.  I
called Robert Riefer in Lehigh Acres; he took the phone outside and found
the nova in a quarter minute as I described how to find it.  Now let's root
for it to reach mag  -5 and cast shadows.

Norman

Norman W. McLeod III
Staff Advisor
American Meteor Society

Fort Myers, Florida
nmcleod@peganet.com

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