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Hello,
>> 3) With all the debris falling during the 1833 Leonid storm perhaps some
>> particles hit each other and ricocheted off in odd directions. Did anyone
>> see that happen during last years Leonids in Jordan or Spain?
>>
>> Mrs. Roberta Webb
Although it was a bit hard to notice every detail during the maximum, but
I believe that I didn't see such an event from Jordan during the Leonids '99.
By the way, a delegation of IMO, consisting of: Sirko Molau, Mirko
Nitschke, and Ulrich Sperberg are now in Jordan visiting JAS, and we will
have a camping in Al-Azraq to observe the Eta Aquarids meteor shower!
Clear Skies!!
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At 06:44 PM 02/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
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>meteorobs-digest Tuesday, May 2 2000 Volume 03 : Number 354
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>(meteorobs) Observations May 01/02
>Re: (meteorobs) camera for photographing meteors
>(meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>(meteorobs) April 30/May 1 Meteor Observations From California
>(meteorobs) May 1/2 Meteor Observations From California
>Re: (meteorobs) camera for photographing meteors
>Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>Re: (meteorobs) camera for photographing meteors
>Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>(meteorobs) Where have all the reports gone?
>(meteorobs) aerolites/reports
>Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>(meteorobs) Re: meteorobs-digest V3 #353
>(meteorobs) NASA Science News "5/5/2000: The Meteor Shower"
>(meteorobs) Novice radio observations April 27 - May 2
>(meteorobs) NAMN Notes: May 2000
>Re: (meteorobs) Where have all the reports gone?
>(meteorobs) Null report
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:27:35 +1000 (EST)
>From: Robert Goler <robert@mail.maths.monashdot edu.au>
>Subject: (meteorobs) Observations May 01/02
>
>This was my first night of observing for Eta Aquariids this year, and it
>was a pretty good night. The sky was clear at my observing side to the
>east of Melbourne, and I managed 2 hours of observations before the moon
>rose and 1 hour with the moon up.
>
>I just recorded occurrences of ETAs with all others recorded as sporadics.
>
>Here is a summary.
>
>Lat = -37 degs 54' : Long = 145 degs 30' east (10 hours ahead of UTC)
>
>16:30->17:29UT 8 ETA / 10 SPO TOTAL=18 LM=6.0 Alt=15degs
>17:30->18:29UT 6 ETA / 5 SPO TOTAL=11 LM=6.1 Alt=30degs
>18:30->19:30UT 7 ETA / 12 SPO TOTAL=19 LM=6.0 Alt=45degs
>
>where Alt is the approximate altitude of the radiant at mid interval.
>The LMs were determined using fields 5, 30 and 21.
>
>Mag distribution
>ETA: 0(3) +1(3) +2(2) +3(8) +4(4) +5(1)
>SPO: 0(3) +1(4) +2(3) +3(6) +4(9) +5(2)
>
>For the first two intervals my view was basically due east at an altitude
>of 40 degs, whilst for the last session, with the moon over the eastern
>horizon, I directed my view northwards to Aquila.
>
>There was about 5 mins of dead time in each interval due to writing the
>meteor details down and trying to get reacquainted with the constellations
>and magnitudes etc. During the second period, I took a 10 minute break
>to do some exercises in order to warm myself up in the chilly conditions.
>
>In general, most of the meteors where of the order of 5 degs length.
>However, there was one absolute beaut during the first session that sliced
>through 20 degs of sky through Microscopium and Indus heading southwest.
>It was slow of magnitude 0, white in colour and left a train. A very fast
>version of a similiar meteor rocketed westwards through Sagittarius and
>the Milky Way during the last interval.
>
>There were 6 occasions where 2 meteors occurred within seconds of each
>other. 11 meteors left trains.
>
>Let's hope the activity will be just as good for the following nights.
>
>
>Cheers
>
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>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 03:31:44 +0100
>From: Leo Stachowicz <leo@nitric.dircon.codot uk>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) camera for photographing meteors
>
>Hi Alex,
>
>I started trying to photograph meteors late last year,and I've learnt allot
>since then(and still am learning)
>
>The basic requirements for a suitable camera for meteor photography are:
>
>1.The ability to take long exposures.Usually this means the camera should
>have a "B" setting which allows for the shutter to remain open for as long
>as the shutter release is depressed.To stop vibration ruining your
>exposures you will also need a locking cable release and a tripod (the
>sturdier,the better).
>
>2.The camera body should be able to withstand the cold which usually means
>getting an older and completely manual 35mm camera,since most newer cameras
>consume battery power to hold the shutter open and you run the risk of
>running out of juice in the middle of a long exposure,especially on a cold
>night when batteries die much faster than under warmer conditions.
>
>3.A lens in the wide to normal angle range with as wide a maximum aperture
>as you can afford as a wider aperture (or smaller f-stop) will record
>fainter meteors than a smaller aperture.The standard 50mm/f~1.8 lenses that
>come with most 35mm SLRs are usually excellent for meteor photography and
>can be purchased relatively cheaply in mint condition on the second hand
>market.
>
>4.MLU:Not essential ,but useful is the ability to lock up the mirror on the
>camera to prevent the image damaging vibrations that can occur when the
>mirror snaps out of the way at the start of the exposure.
>
>I ended up buying a secondhand Nikon F2 body from e-bay for $270 (I've
>always had a softspot for Nikon:))dot it has all the features I listed above
>and I'm very happy with the choice I made (its a rock solid camera and has
>a great reputation for reliability under adverse conditions)A camera like
>the Nikon FE2 is also suitable for this type of photography but theres also
>plenty of choice from other manufacturers.
>I also got myself two manual focus lenses ,a 50/1.8 and a 28/2.The 50/1.8
>is capable of capturing fainter meteors(I think?!) but covers less sky than
>the wider angle 28/2.Both work very well for this kind of work as well as
>general photography.
>
>Here are a few links which might also be useful:
>http://www.imodot net/photo/index.html
>http://web.infoavedot net/~meteorobs/guidechap3.html
>http://familyeducation.com/article/0,1120,22-3836,00.html
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>Hope this helps !
>
>Clear skies,
> Leo
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 01:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Robert Verish <bolidechaser@yahoo.com>
>Subject: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>
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>Clear viewing,
>Robert Verish < bolidechaser@yahoo.com >
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>From: Sharkkb8@aol.com
>Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:35:30 EDT
>Subject: Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>
>(This post is admittedly more about meteORS than
>meteorITES
>so please judge potential interest, or lack thereof,
>accordingly).
>
>I recently obtained an antique print from an
>"Illustrated Astronomy" magazine, March 1864 issue,
>depicting the Leonid shower over Niagara Falls in
>November 1833, entitled "Aerolites, Meteors".
>See it here:
>
>http://jgregory.wilson.org/niagara.jpg
>
>The words at the bottom of the print, if they're
>difficult to read, are:
>"View of the meteoric shower, as seen at Niagara Falls
>on the night of the 12th & 13th of November, 1833".
>
>It could practically be one of those "how many things
>can you find wrong with this picture?". I am
>wondering if anyone who is conversant with the
>19th-century-science-of-the-day can shed light on
>any/all of the following:
>
>1) The "aerolites" seem to have a single star as a
>radiant, as opposed to the region of the constellation
>Leo.
>
>2) The meteors are drawn as if they are heading
>TOWARD this star "radiant", rather than emanating FROM
>it.
>
>3) There are what appear to sporadics, lower to the
>horizon, but in oddly drawn, jagged, sometimes
>parallel, trajectories.
>
>4) There seems to be a fiery phenomenon in/on the
>water of the falls themselves, as if a meteoroid had
>just made it through the atmosphere into the water as
>it tumbled over the cliff.
>
>5) This print presumably depicts the shower at its
>peak, yet the dates at the bottom are Nov 12-13 rather
>than the generally accepted Nov 17/18 (plus-or-minus).
>
>It seems curious to me, that a print in an scientific
>magazine could be so startlingly inaccurate, even for
>the mid/late 1800's.
>Maybe all the magazine's better illustrators were busy
>fighting in the Civil War?! Any thoughts?
>
>Thanx - Gregory
>
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>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 03:52:56 -0700
>From: Robert Lunsford <lunro.imo.usa@home.com>
>Subject: (meteorobs) April 30/May 1 Meteor Observations From California
>
>My first attempt at watching the Eta Aquarid show had mixed results. I
>decided to watch from home this morning in order to save some gas and to
>get an extra hour of watching. I began at 00:47 local daylight time and
>saw my first meteor 9 minutes later. 11 minutes after that low clouds
>rolled in and put an end to my watch. It was still early enough that I
>could drive east toward clear, dark skies and get 2.5 hours in. I packed
>everything in the truck and away I went. I started again at 02:17 LDT
>under much better skies and managed to see 22 more meteors during an
>additional 2.5 hours. The 20 degree difference in temperature was quite
>a shock though!
>
>The Eta Aquarids were a bit of a disappointment as I only saw 3. It's
>still early in the month so there is no need to panic. There were some
>nice long meteors seen tonight but nothing fantastic on the brightness
>scale. The highlight was a zero magnitude meteor from Libra that began
>nearly overhead and shot slowly into Draco toward the north.
>
>After viewing the plots made tonight there was a compact radiant formed
>by 3 meteors centered some 10 degrees east of Arcturus. Two more slow
>meteors missed it by 5 and 10 degrees. Interestingly, this radiant is
>close to the predicted position of the Alpha Bootid radiant which is
>usually much more quiet. It would be interesting to see if any other
>plotters have recorded activity from this area.
>
>April 30/May 1 2000
>
>0747-0807 UT 0.32 5.90 0 APX/SPO 0 ECL/SAG 0 ETA 1 SPO 1 TOTAL
>0917-1021 UT 1.00 6.64 0 " 2 " 0 " 7 " 9 "
>1021-1147 UT 1.37 6.51 2 " 0 " 3 " 8 " 13 "
>
>TOTALS: 2.69 6.49 2 APX/SPO 2 ECL/SAG 3 ETA 16 SPO 23 TOTAL
>
>
>The first column gives the period watched stated in Universal Time (UT)
>which is PDT + 7 hours. The second column gives the percent of that
>particular hour actually spent observing the sky. Time was lost for
>plotting and data entry tonight. The third column gives the average
>limiting magnitude estimated during each period with a minimum of 4
>estimates using at least 2 and preferably 3 different sky areas close to
>my center of view. The last several columns list the activity seen
>during each period.
>
>I was facing east at an altitude of 60 degrees during the entire
>session. A break was taken between 0807 and 0917 to travel to clear
>skies. APX/SPO = Apex radiant Sporadics, ECL/SAG = Antihelion radiant
>(Sagittarids), ETA = Eta Aquarids and SPO = Sporadics (random activity).
>
>Beginning Temperature/Relative Humidity: 42 F (6 C) 55%
>Ending " " " 39 F (4 C) 58%
>
>MAGNITUDES:
>
>APX/SPO: +2 (1) +3 (1) AVERAGE: +2.50
>ECL/SAG: 0 (1) +2 (1) AVERAGE: +1.00
>ETA: +4 (3) AVERAGE: +4.00
>SPO: 0 (1) +1 (3) +2 (3) +3 (5) +4 (3) +5 (1) AVERAGE: +2.56
>
>Bob Lunsford
>San Diego, CA USA
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>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 04:31:51 -0700
>From: Robert Lunsford <lunro.imo.usa@home.com>
>Subject: (meteorobs) May 1/2 Meteor Observations From California
>
>Tonight's observing attempt was an exercise in futility. Lack of sleep
>caused me to shut the alarm off and go back to bed. I awoke at 0130
>local daylight time and was quite irritated at my lack of discipline.
>Surprisingly it was clear outside so I had the choice of watching at
>home for 3 hours or driving 50 miles and watching there for 2. Well I
>made the wrong choice and watched from home. I began at 01:47 and I did
>not see my first meteor until 57 minutes later. 5 minutes later it began
>to cloud up but the clouds vanished as as quickly as they appeared. At
>02:57 a nice slow meteor was seen low in the east descending through the
>clouds. It lined up with the Alpha Bootid radiant mentioned in my last
>post. At 03:04 my first Eta Aquarid was seen. It was a 3rd magnitude
>grazer shooting upward through Cygnus. Shortly after that it began to
>cloud up again, this time for good. Well at least I'll catch up on my
>sleep today and be ready for a good watch tomorrow from the mountains.
>
>May 1/2 2000
>
>0847-1017 UT 1.48 5.80 0 APX/SPO 0 ECL/SAG 1 ETA 2 SPO 3 TOTAL
>
>TOTALS: 1.48 5.80 0 APX/SPO 0 ECL/SAG 1 ETA 2 SPO 3 TOTAL
>
>
>The first column gives the period watched stated in Universal Time (UT)
>which is PDT + 7 hours. The second column gives the percent of that
>particular hour actually spent observing the sky. Time was lost for
>plotting and data entry tonight. The third column gives the average
>limiting magnitude estimated during each period with a minimum of 4
>estimates using at least 2 and preferably 3 different sky areas close to
>my center of view. The last several columns list the activity seen
>during each period.
>
>I was facing east at an altitude of 60 degrees during the entire
>session. No breaks were taken. APX/SPO = Apex radiant Sporadics, ECL/SAG
>= Antihelion radiant (Sagittarids), ETA = Eta Aquarids and SPO =
>Sporadics (random activity).
>
>Beginning Temperature/Relative Humidity: 60 F (16 C) 79%
>Ending " " " 59 F (15 C) 85%
>
>MAGNITUDES:
>
>ETA: +3 (1) AVERAGE: +3.00
>SPO: 0 (1) +5 (1) AVERAGE: +2.50
>
>Bob Lunsford
>San Diego, CA USA
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>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 07:57:04 -0400
>From: Terry Richardson <richardsont@cofcdot edu>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) camera for photographing meteors
>
>Alex and Group,
>
>Leo gave some terrific advice on cameras for meteors. I want to make one
>addition to his advise on mirror lock up or MLU. MLU is important
>photographing the planets or moon through a telescope or wildlife with a
>long telephoto lens under low light, but is unimportant for meteor work on
>a tripod. Tests we conducted with various subjects showed that on a tripod
>even with medium telephoto lenses (where the effect are the worst when
>compared to the lenses used in meteor work), exposures longer than about
>one eighth of a second showed no ill effects from "mirror slap."
>
>>
>>4.MLU:Not essential ,but useful is the ability to lock up the mirror on the
>>camera to prevent the image damaging vibrations that can occur when the
>>mirror snaps out of the way at the start of the exposure.
>>
>
>Also I have a formula to compare the relative effectiveness of various
>lenses taking into account the speed of the lens and the coverage. Wide
>angle lenses cover more sky and stand a better chance of having a meteor
>pass through the field of view. However they are usually a bit slower (in
>f-stops) and hence are less likely to record the meteor unless it is
>bright. I will be glad to run the results for you on various lenses you are
>considering or give you a reference where you can look up the formula and
>work out the details for yourself.
>
>Clear Skies,
>
>Terry
>
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 08:31:55 EDT
>From: Beboutwebb@aol.com
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>
>Gregory:
>
>1) I only saw a few Leonids last year. All of them seemed to come from
>exactly the same point in the sky.
>
>2) Two of the Leonids I saw last year actually were wider at the starting
>point than at the ending point. Those two meteors truly looked like an
>elongated triangle, the initiation of the meteor being one line, spilling
>down to a point, and the other two sides of the triangle 3 to 4 times the
>length of the initiation line. They looked like a college pennant with
point
>toward earth.
> Then again, in 1865 perhaps the artist drew the meteors by stroking
>down with a quill and a glob of ink is simply where he started to draw the
>line.
>
>3) With all the debris falling during the 1833 Leonid storm perhaps some
>particles hit each other and ricocheted off in odd directions. Did anyone
>see that happen during last years Leonids in Jordan or Spain?
>
>5) I looked up a site, "Niagara Falls in Art" at
>http://www.sunyniagra.cc.ny.us/homepags/Knechtel/niagara.html where
>several pictures have a similar "...fiery phenomenon in/on the water of the
>falls themselves...". I submit that the artist of your antique print simply
>took an existing drawing of Niagara Falls with plumes of mist and added a 31
>year old memory of the meteor shower in the sky. The "fiery phenomenon" has
>nothing to do with the meteor shower. It is a cloud of mist llike many
>pictures of Niagara Falls.
>
>Great antique print! Did you get a copy of the astronomy article that
>originally went with the print?
>
>Mrs. Roberta Webb
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>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:36:14 +0800
>From: ykChia <chiayk@singnet.com.sg>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>
>Hi :
> No, I did not see meteors colliding with each other in Jordan 99.
Eventhough we
>witnessed a STORM level condition, it was hardly any where near the famous
>woodcarving of sky filled with falling stars..and I believe the particles
>themselves are miles/kilometers apart. ( Any guru out here to provide the
>statistical distribution of particle?)
>
>Beboutwebb@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> 3) With all the debris falling during the 1833 Leonid storm perhaps some
>> particles hit each other and ricocheted off in odd directions. Did anyone
>> see that happen during last years Leonids in Jordan or Spain?
>>
>> Mrs. Roberta Webb
>
>rgds
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 08:46:30 -0700
>From: "Ed Majden" <epmajden@home.com>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) camera for photographing meteors
>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) camera for photographing meteors
>
> To enhance the value of meteor photographs, one should add a chopping or
>interupting synchronous motor driven shutter to your meteor camera or
>cameras. Generally, chopping rates of 10 to 60 times per second are used.
>In the case of very large fireballs, this rate can be lower. The chopping
>shutter is simply, a two or more blade disk, that is driven by a constant
>speed synchronous motor just infront of your camera lens. The meteor is
>chopped up into a number of segments as the blade interupts the light
>entering the camera. From this, angular velocity can be determind. From a
>single station, if the meteor can be identified with a particular shower
>heights can be arrived at. If the meteor is recorded by a similar camera
>located several kilometers, (miles), away and the time of the meteor
>crossing the field is known orbital elements can be arrived at. As noted,
>just about any camera can be used for meteor photography as long as it can
>be set to take a long time exposure. 35 mm cameras with fast lenses are
>probably the least expensive and most efficient for amateurs to use.
>Advanced workers can build their own cameras using surplus aero lenses such
>as the Kodak Aero Ektars etc. Large format films are used in this case so
>such systems are more expensive to operate. Why do this? The image scale
>is larger so more accurate astrometry can be arrived at. To further improve
>the value of such photographs one should attempt to place the chopping
>shutter just infront of the film plane as this will provide sharper breaks
>in your meteor trails. If you really want to do advanced work, you should
>try meteor spectroscopy.
> See: http://www.amsmeteors.org/spectro.html , for information on the
>AMS meteor spectroscopy project. Cameras using film or video intensified
>systems are used in meteor work. The latter will provide data on fainter
>meteors.
>
>Ed Majden - AMS Meteor Spectroscopy Project Coordinator
>
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:54:03 +0100
>From: Nick Martin <bonnyton@ednet.codot uk>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>
>At 08:31 AM 5/2/00 EDT, you wrote:
>>Gregory:
>>
>
>>
>>2) Two of the Leonids I saw last year actually were wider at the starting
>>point than at the ending point.
>snip
>>
>>3) With all the debris falling during the 1833 Leonid storm perhaps some
>>particles hit each other and ricocheted off in odd directions. Did anyone
>>see that happen during last years Leonids in Jordan or Spain?
>
>Myself and another observer both saw a couple of meteors from which an
>object moved away at an angle to the end trajectory from the end of the
>meteors path. I reported it at the time. It is not likely to be due to
>ricochets from colliding particles though.
>The wiggly trails resemble persistent trains seen some minutes after they
>were fromed
>>
>>snip
>
>>Mrs. Roberta Webb
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>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:53:57 +0200
>From: Jure <exceld77@sioldot net>
>Subject: (meteorobs) Where have all the reports gone?
>
>Hi!
>
>This has bothered me for some time. It appears that the number of active
>observers present on meteorobs has declined during the last two years.
>Or at least the number of reports being sent to the list. Of course,
>there are several active observers posting to the list and making it
>much more interesting - Kim Youmans, Mike Linnolt, Robert Lunsford,
>Javor Kac (I apologize to any observer who I didn't list, but is
>active...). But what has happened to all the experienced observers???
>Lew used to post a lot of observations, telescopic, visual... Norman has
>also become less active. George Gliba? Pierre Martin? Kim Hay? Marco
>Langbroek? And all the other observers who used to post their
>observations to meteorobs? Where are you? Trevor Pendelton also used to
>post his observations for a relatively short time, Trevor, where are
>you?
>I hope this post wake up some of the experienced observers, since their
>observations make a big contribution to the list. I'm sure that with
>more reports more of 'lurkers' out there will become interested in
>observing meteors.
>And another thing. To all the beginners - don't be afraid to post your
>observations to the list. Even if you make mistakes, I'm sure you'll
>gather experience really quickly and in no time you will post superb
>reports!
>
>In hopes of more reports... ...clear skies to all of you!!
>
>Jure A.
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:08:47 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "alex m'clintock" <sparkster778@yahoo.com>
>Subject: (meteorobs) aerolites/reports
>
>I observed the Leonids from Mallorca Spain last year
>(plenty of them), and I also witnessed something
>similar although only a few. about 7 of the LEOs
>radiated from Leo were far to close to the radiant
>which does not follow the distance of meteor to
>radiant rule. Although I was not ay all experienced
>then I recall thinking how close they were to Leo. The
>only possibility I can think of is as you say
>ricochets or SPOs, the only doubt I have with SPOs is
>they seem to be following far to equal direction as
>the LEOs.
>
>In reply to Jure's e-mail.
>Hopefully I should post some reports this week after
>observing some ETAs, the only problem is I am at
>school so night long observations are far to
>difficult. This weekends observations + reports may be
>more likely as I will go camping to watch the last of
>the ETAs from a darker part of the isalnd.
>
>Reply to camera e-mails:
>Thanks everyone who sent camera suggestions, they
>should be useful and you may see me posting some pics
>to the mailing list or I may create a webpage with
>them on.
>
>Alex M'clintock
>
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>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:21:10 -0400
>From: Lew Gramer <dedalus@latrade.com>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>
>NOTE: Gregory is not a current 'meteorobs' subscriber(?). If you follow up,
>please be sure to MANUALLY put 'Sharkkb8@aol.com' in your "Cc:" line!
>
>Lew Gramer <owner-meteorobs@jovian.com>
>
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>
>From: Sharkkb8@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:32:27 EDT
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Leonid "aerolites" of 1833, drawn in 1864
>To: Beboutwebb@aol.com, meteorobs@jovian.com
>
>>Then again, in 1865 perhaps the artist drew the meteors by stroking down
>>with a quill and a glob of ink is simply where he started to draw the line.
>
>I suspect that the print in question is a woodcut, in which the artist
>"engraves" the surface of a plate with his design, and as such is very
>carefully done. I think that the meteors' curious directions, TOWARD
>the radiant, is certainly intentional, the artist just didn't know, for
>debatable reasons, that this was the opposite of reality.
>
>Gregory
>
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>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 21:57:46 +0200
>From: Jure <exceld77@sioldot net>
>Subject: (meteorobs) Re: meteorobs-digest V3 #353
>
>> Which night was this, Jure??
>>
>
>The last one, April 30/May 1.
>
>Clear skies!
>
>Jure A.
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 18:05:12 -0400
>From: Lew Gramer <dedalus@latrade.com>
>Subject: (meteorobs) NASA Science News "5/5/2000: The Meteor Shower"
>
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 13:22:14 -0500
>From: NASA Science News <science.news@msfc.nasadot gov>
>To: dedalus@LATRADE.COM
>Subject: 5/5/2000: The Meteor Shower
>
>NASA Science News for May 2, 2000
>
>The eta Aquarid meteor shower, caused by bits of debris
>from Halley's Comet, will peak on May 5-6, 2000. Lunar
>observers will be watching the Moon on the nights after
>the shower for possible signs of meteorite impacts.
>FULL STORY at
>
>http://www.spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast02may_1.htm
>
><a href="http://spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast02may_1.htm">5/5/2000:
The
>Meteor Shower</a>
>__
>[This is from] Science.NASAdot gov NASA Science News mailing list.
>
>This is a free service.
>
>Home page: http://science.nasadot gov/
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:16:07 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Aaron Price <aaronp@shoredot net>
>Subject: (meteorobs) Novice radio observations April 27 - May 2
>
> This is the first time I've set out a program to observe a shower via
>radio. As a result, I consider these numbers virtually useless. But for
>the sake of it, here goes...
>
> I have observed one hour per night from 11:30-12:30 locally (EST, -4 UT).
> echos
> April 27-28: 50
> April 28-29: 55
> April 29-30: 51
>April 30-May 1: 62
> May 1-2: 74
>
> Note, on the last two observations I changed my listening station from
>61.75 LSB to 61.25 CW. So I'm unsure about whether the increased activity
>is due to the frequency change, the eta aquarids, or (more likely)
>increased experience and confidence by the observer. The real test will
>be whether the numbers drop after the shower is over.
> My goal is to continue observing the same hour through May 10, while
>expanding to 11:30-4am on the 4th, 5th, and 6th. Of course, that relies on
>the ability of my coworkers to put up with a tired and grumpy person the
>next day. :)
> There are many factors that fudge these numbers. I have learned alot and
>will be better prepared for the next shower. I would like to also put
>together a VERY basic reduction algorithm to take into effect the fact
>that I have about 3 transmitters on that frequency (thus may have multiple
>echos) and I live on a busy flight path (thus increasing aircraft
>reflections).
>
>
>Aaron Price, Perlmonger and UNIX Sysadmin
>American Association of Variable Star Observers, www.aavso.org
>"We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of the dreams." - Roald Dahl
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>
>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 21:07:22 -0400
>From: Mark Davis <MeteorObs@charlestondot net>
>Subject: (meteorobs) NAMN Notes: May 2000
>
>*********************
>NAMN Notes: May 2000
>*********************
>
>Introduction:
>
>NAMN Notes is a monthly newsletter produced by the North American Meteor
>Network, and is available both via email, and on the NAMN website at:
>http://web.infoavedot net/~meteorobs
>
>Contents:
>
>1. The Eta Aquarids...
>2. Other May Showers...
>3. Genealogy vs. Meteors...
>4. Recent Observations, April 2000...
>5. NAMN Member Bags Second Comet...
>6. Upcoming Meetings...
>7. For more info...
>
>
>1. The Eta Aquarids...
>
>The Eta Aquarids (ETA) are the first big meteor shower of spring. They
>reach a maximum on May 5th this year, at 17h UT (Universal Time). The
>Zenithal Hourly Rate (the number of meteors one would expect to see under a
>dark country sky if the radiant, the position in the sky where the meteors
>seem to come from, is directly overhead), would be about 60 meteors per hour
>per person - with the unaided eye. This rate is occasionally variable.
>These are fast meteors, with a velocity of about 66 km per second, and can
>be seen until about May 28th.
>
>Depending on your latitude, this can be a very good meteor shower.
>Observers in more southerly locations are favored, as they will have the
>meteor radiant higher in the sky, and so will see the highest rates.
>However, it is well worth observing this shower even if you are in a more
>northerly location. This is right at new moon, so sky conditions will be
>optimal. On May 5th, at maximum, the radiant will be at 338 degrees, ie. RA
>22h 32m, Dec -01, very near the star eta Aquarius.
>
>Check out the star charts at http://web.infoavedot net/~meteorobs/charts.html,
>and print yourself off the set of four (set your printer to landscape mode
>before printing). Aquarius is on chart #3. These star charts, prepared by
>the North American Meteor Network, will help you learn your way around the
>sky as well as the brightness of the 'standard' stars that we use to
>estimate meteor brightness, called magnitude.</p>
>
>The website of the International Meteor Organization (IMO) has the Eta
>Aquarid radiant plotted for the month of May on a star chart at
>http://www.imodot net/calendar/cal00.html#eta-Aquarids
>
>According to the IMO: "This is a fine, rich stream... but it is visible for
>only a few hours before dawn essentially from tropical and southern
>hemisphere sites. Some useful results have come even from sites around
>40° N latitude in recent years however, and... the shower would benefit
>from increased observer activity generally... A relatively broad maximum,
>sometimes with a variable number of submaxima, usually occurs in early May.
>ZHRs are generally above 30 for almost a week centered on the main peak...
>The fast and often bright meteors make the wait for radiant-rise worthwhile,
>and many events leave glowing persistent trains after them."
>
>The Eta Aquarid meteor shower represents debris from Halley's Comet, so this
>is a very special shower for many observers due to the popularity of the
>parent comet.
>
>
>2. Other May Showers...
>
>The Sagittarids (SAG) continue to represent the ecliptic activity - the
>meteor activity whose radiant travels along the path of the ecliptic. These
>have a velocity of about 30 km per second, so are verging on slow (note that
>slow implies a velocity of under about 30 km per second, medium a velocity
>from about 30 - 50 km per second, and fast a velocity of over 50 km per
>second). The ZHR rate for this activity is about 5 meteors per hour. On
>May 5th, the radiant will be at 236 degrees, ie. RA 15h 44m, Dec -20, which
>is near the star kappa Libra, about 5 degrees to the right of the top of the
>'J' in Scorpius. By May 30th, the radiant will have moved to 256 degrees,
>ie. RA 17h 4m, Dec -23, which is about 8 degrees up to the left of the
>reddish star Antares. Fireballs are possible with this shower, so observers
>are often rewarded with sightings of nice, bright meteors.
>
>New moon this month is on May 4th, 1st quarter on May 10th, full moon on May
>18th, and last quarter on May 26th. A moon calendar is provided on the IMO
>website at http://www.imodot net/calendar/cal00.html#Table4
>
>For those of you wishing to check out what satellites will be visible while
>you're out meteor observing this month, check out
>http://www.heavens-above.com
>
>
>3. Genealogy vs. Meteors...
>
>After spending some quality family time over this past month's Easter
>weekend, the Canadian co-author thought of an interesting analogy - between
>genealogy and the study of meteors and comets.
>
>There has been a lot of discussion over the past months on the meteor email
>list using technical terms that can be very confusing for a beginning
>observer. There are also many concepts out there in meteor observing that
>can be difficult to understand. And - all this technical talk can make a
>beginner wonder if it's all just too much for them, and if their own
>observing is of much use at all, given the type of results posted by many of
>the more experienced observers.
>
>What are some of these confusing terms and concepts? Recent ones talked
>about on the meteor email list include such things as antihelion, apex and
>antiapex activity - and are enough to make a newbie's head spin. Does a
>beginner have to deal with all these terms? The simple answer is - no.
>These are projects for more experienced observers, and beginning observers
>are encouraged to just go out under a dark sky and start off with trying for
>the major meteor showers - such as the Eta Aquarids this month.
>
>Think of meteor showers as belonging to a big family tree. Genealogy is a
>great hobby, and really does parallel the study of meteors, comets and
>asteroids to some degree. Way back up the family tree, you have
>great-grandparents. Maybe you have a couple large cometary bodies, way out
>in space. These get perturbed, quite possibly by gravitational interaction
>with large planets, and end up in orbits around our sun. Maybe one ends up
>in a low inclination orbit (ie. close to what we call the ecliptic plane)
>and the other comet body ends up in a high inclination orbit. Over the
>years, these comets loop in toward us again and again in their orbits around
>our sun, leaving debris in their path as they shed material.
>
>Maybe one breaks up. Suppose one of the great-grandparent comets breaks up
>into a couple smaller comets - grandparents on the genealogical scale.
>These, over time, maybe drift apart a bit, as many siblings often do. Then,
>in their passages over the centuries around our sun, maybe both of them
>break up into a couple more pieces, forming parents, one notch further down
>the family tree. So, we now have a number of comets, related in origin,
>where we originally had one (we will ignore inbreeding). Remember that
>the second great-grandparent comet never broke up, and is still out there,
>orbiting away.
>
>Each time one of these comets goes around our sun, material is shed, which
>gradually spreads out along the path of the comet. Generally speaking,
>older comets have been around more times, so their material will be more
>spread out along their path. Younger comets will have their debris more
>concentrated and not as spread out along their orbit. Is there just one
>path for debris? No. Every time a comet goes around the sun, its path is
>just a little bit different from its previous passage. It has gotten older,
>maybe slowed down a bit, and has been affected in various ways by what it
>has encountered on its long trip. So, each time the comet does the loop
>around our sun, it lays down a slightly different path of debris. To
>complicate this, each debris path of potential meteors, once formed, acts as
>a separate entity. Each stream of debris is affected by various external
>forces that will move and shape it, independent of streams of debris laid
>down in different years.
>
>We get meteors when the earth encounters this comet debris. How on earth do
>we tell who this debris belonged to - whether it was from a
>great-grandparent (before one of them split up), or from a grandparent, or
>from a parent? This is difficult, and a challenge. In most cases, this has
>been done by photographic studies by professionals, who have analyzed the
>characteristics of the meteors and matched those orbital characteristics up
>with the corresponding comet. We now know, for instance, that Comet Halley
>spawned both the Eta Aquarid shower that we watch in May, and the Orionid
>shower, which we watch in October.
>
>So, what are these unusual terms that some people have been using on the
>meteor list lately? Remember the great-grandparent comets we mentioned
>earlier. One was in a low-inclination orbit, in other words, moving close
>to our ecliptic. Over many centuries, lots of old comets in similar orbits
>have shed so much debris that there is very little left of them. And, more
>to the point, because of so much debris along the ecliptic, we are no longer
>able to separate the different meteor showers generated by all these old
>comets. They have become 'lost cousins' so to speak. What are they? They
>are called the 'ecliptical showers' or the 'antihelion activity'. Don't get
>confused though - they are just meteors whose parentage we can't separate.
>
>Similarly, remember the great-grandparent comet in a high inclination orbit.
>Over many centuries, these types of old comets also generate meteor debris.
>These meteors come from certain specific areas in the sky as well - and are
>called the 'toroidal' activity. These are also 'lost kids' whose origins and
>parentage have all been mixed in together.
>
>So, what are these terms 'apex' and 'antiapex' that we hear a lot of these
>days? Well, think of driving to the family reunion in a rainstorm. Your
>car is the earth, travelling through space. If your vehicle is an old
>Meteor or Comet, try to suspend your belief here for a moment and pretend
>you're driving the earth! What splats on the front windshield are the apex
>meteors. What you see out the back window are the antiapex meteors.
>
>So, whose parentage can we really separate out and trace on our meteor
>family tree? We can trace many showers to their parent bodies, but not all.
>Some of these parents are comets, and some are actually asteroids. There is
>a fine dividing line between comets and asteroids, and this line is still
>being studied in scientific circles. The Perseids are debris from Comet
>Swift-Tuttle. The Geminids are debris from the asteroid Phaethon. The
>Taurid meteor showers in November have an extremely complicated family tree,
>with multiple related objects of possible origin.
>
>If you like both genealogy and meteors, get yourself a copy of the IMO
>Handbook for Visual Meteor Observers. It is fascinating reading. It gives
>not only great information on how meteors were formed and what parents they
>come from, but also provides an excellent guide to observing them, shower by
>shower throughout the year. Hey, even if you're not into family tree
>research, the IMO Handbook is a valuable resource! Check out the IMO
>website at http://www.imodot net under Publications.
>
>(For more information on comets and parent bodies, check out the newly
>released 'Comet Science - The Study of Remnants from the Birth of the Solar
>System' by Jacques Crovisier and Therese Encrenaz, just released in the
>English translation by Cambridge University Press, 2000. It is a bit
>technical, but quite readable by the serious amateur, and is wonderfully
>laid out with dozens of photos, easy to read graphs, and charts on all
>aspects of comets. It is available both in hardcover, and the more
>affordable softcover. It's one of the neatest books on comets the
>co-author has seen in years.)
>
>When you are actually going out to observe, we encourage beginning meteor
>observers to just concentrate on the major showers. These have good hourly
>rates for observers who are learning the sky and where the various
>constellations are. For help on how to get started, check out the NAMN
>Observing Guide at http://web.infoavedot net/~meteorobs/guide.html.
>
>For those observers who have gotten through the basics, we then suggest
>trying some of the minor meteor showers, and perhaps getting into plotting
>meteors on star charts, which is the best way to record detail for minor
>showers. The complete NAMN 2000 Meteor Shower Calendar is at
>http://web.infoavedot net/~meteorobs/2000targets.html.
>
>It is probably only the more experienced observers who may want to get into
>studying such unusual activity as the 'antihelion' meteors and the other
>unusual types of old comet debris. Just remember though - whether a beginner
>records data on a major shower, or whether an experienced observer records
>data on the 'lost kids' of the meteor family tree - our meteor community
>needs all observers, regardless of what activity you would like to help out
>with!
>
>
>4. Recent Observations, April 2000...
>
>Nightly coverage during the month of April remained nearly identical to that
>of March with 16 separate nights having at least one NAMN member out
>observing. But the total number of hours these observers spent recording
>meteors nearly doubled to over 75 hours. In April, 11 members participated
>in one or more of these watches.
>
>The highlight of April is normally the Lyrids, but with moon conditions
>unfavorable in 2000, only 96 members of this shower were recorded by NAMN
>members. Still, that is over three times the number of members from the
>other two showers that were visible (ignoring a handful of early Eta
>Aquarids that were reported) - Virginids (26 meteors) and the Sagittarids
>(26 meteors). And as usual, the sporadics dominated the total number of
>meteors category with a total of 444 being recorded.
>
>It was great to pick up some new, active observers during this past month.
>Welcome to Michael Shorten of Illinois, Asdai Diaz of Cuba, and Andreja
>Cvetko, Natasa Petelin, Maja Plajh and Helena Rojht, all from Slovenia! We
>look forward to working together on future NAMN campaigns, and of course, to
>receiving your future reports.
>
>For a complete listing of April observations, visit the home page of NAMN at
>http://web.infoavedot net/~meteorobs. I would like to thank the following
>observers who sent in observations during the month of April:
>
>Jure Atanackov Scott Moser
>Andreja Cvetko Natasa Petelin
>Asdai Diaz Maja Plajh
>Javor Kac Helena Rojht
>Mike Linnolt Michael Shorten
>Robert Lunsford Kim Youmans
>
>
>5. NAMN Member Bags Second Comet...
>
>Michael Boschat does it again - a second comet!! According to the Minor
>Planet Electronic Circular 2000-J05 issued on May 1, 2000:
>
>- -----
>COMET C/2000 H2 (SOHO)
>
>Observer details:
>249 SOHO. SOHO-LASCO coronagraphs C3 and C2. Comet reported by T. Lovejoy,
>M. Boschat, M. Oates and R. Gorelli, measurements by D. A. Biesecker and D.
>Hammer, reduction by B. G. Marsden.
>- -----
>
>Images of C/2000 are available at Mike's website:
>http://www.atm.daldot ca/~andromed/
>
>We can only wonder if this will become a regular feature of NAMN Notes. Way
>to go Mike!!!
>
>
>6. Upcoming Meetings...
>
>July 9-12, 2000 - Austria:
>The international conference 'Catastrophic Events and Mass Extinctions:
>Impacts and Beyond' will be held at the University of Vienna in Austria.
>This is the 4th in a series of meetings on mass extinctions and global
>catastrophes, the previous meetings being 1981 and 1988 in Utah, and 1994 in
>Houston, Texas. Expected topics include impact events in earth history,
>boundary events in geologic time, environmental consequences of impacts,
>interpretation of stratigraphic records, and extraterrestrial influences
>such as asteroids and comets. More information on the conference can be
>found at:
>http://www.lpi.usradot edu/meetings/impact2000/impact2000.2nd.html
>
>July 25-August 4, 2000 - Slovenia:
>An International Astronomical Camp, IAC 2000, will be held in the Pohorje
>Mountains at Mariborska koca (MBK), Slovenia. Work will be divided into
>various groups - Solar System, Meteors, Deep Sky, Variables and double
>stars, and Astrophotography. For more information, contact Jure Zakrajsek
>by email at elizabeta.zakrajsek@guest.arnesdot si
>
>September 11-15, 2000 - Crimea:
>The international conference 'Space Protection of the Earth - 2000' will be
>held in Evpatoriya in the Crimea. This is the 3rd in a series of
>international conferences on the protection of the Earth from the threat of
>its collision with asteroids and comets, with the prior meetings being held
>in Saint Petersburg and Snezhinsk, Russia. Topics will cover characteristics
>of asteroids and comets, their risk, detection technologies, man-made means
>of influencing dangerous celestial bodies, planetary defense, international
>cooperation, prospects for utilizing asteroid and comet resources, and other
>issues. For more information, contact the SPE-2000 Program Committee by
>email at: spe@asteroids.ru
>
>September 21-24, 2000 - Romania:
>The IMC, International Meteor Conference, of the IMO, the International
>Meteor Organization, is being held in Pucioasa, Romania, about 100 km
>northwest of Bucharest. It is being organized by the Romanian Society for
>Meteors and Astronomy (SARM), in cooperation with the mayoralty of Pucioasa.
>Pucioasa can be reached by direct trains and buses from Bucharest, and a
>shuttle bus from the Bucharest airport to the conference site is planned.
>Accommodation will be provided in double rooms, and meals served at the
>restaurant of the hotel close to the conference site. The conference fee
>will be 170 DEM. A deposit of at least 100 DEM is requested for those
>interested in attending, and a registration form is on the IMO website at
>http://www.imodot net.
>
>
>7. For more info..
>
>Contact:
>Mark Davis, MeteorObs@charlestondot net
>Goose Creek, South Carolina, USA
>Coordinator, North American Meteor Network
>
>And check out:
>NAMN home page:
>http://web.infoavedot net/~meteorobs
>Back issues of NAMN Notes can be found on-line at the website.
>
>To subscribe to the meteor email list or
>To find out information on our weekly chat sessions:
>Contact Lew Gramer at:
>owner-meteorobs@jovian.com
>
>======================================
>Here's to 'Clear Skies' for May!...
>
>May 2000 NAMN Notes co-written
>by Mark Davis and Cathy Hall
>======================================
>
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:34:40 -0400
>From: Pierre Martin <p.martin@mail.cyberusdot ca>
>Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Where have all the reports gone?
>
>Hi there,
>
>Boy, it's been a while since I posted on meteorobs. But just want to
>let you know that I'm still here, and interested in meteors as
>always. But not a single meteor report since last November's Leonids!
>I'm all out of luck... December to February were mostly clouded out.
>When the few clear nights would present themselves, our canadian
>winter was cold enough to make it dangerous to go out to some remote
>site in the middle of nowhere (I don't have the kind of backyard I
>used to have a few years ago, where setting up for a couple hours was
>a breeze). Recently, I've seen many clear skies but because of some
>recent long work days, I just didn't have the energy to go out and
>observe usefully. Actually I did make it out to a dark sky site this
>past weekend, but I made the mistake of waiting till after midnight
>before switching to meteors. By then I was "bagged", so I knew I
>would contribute poor data. I'd much rather wait to be well rested,
>and provide quality observations, rather than loads of bad data.
>
>Anyway, things should settle down a bit and I expect to get back into
>it soon. I'm getting real thirsty for those shooting stars!
>
>Pierre
>
>
>
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>This has bothered me for some time. It appears that the number of active
>>observers present on meteorobs has declined during the last two years.
>>Or at least the number of reports being sent to the list. Of course,
>>there are several active observers posting to the list and making it
>>much more interesting - Kim Youmans, Mike Linnolt, Robert Lunsford,
>>Javor Kac (I apologize to any observer who I didn't list, but is
>>active...). But what has happened to all the experienced observers???
>>Lew used to post a lot of observations, telescopic, visual... Norman has
>>also become less active. George Gliba? Pierre Martin? Kim Hay? Marco
>>Langbroek? And all the other observers who used to post their
>>observations to meteorobs? Where are you? Trevor Pendelton also used to
>>post his observations for a relatively short time, Trevor, where are
>>you?
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>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 22:36:25 -0500
>From: "Neurowiz" <neurowiz@neurowiz.com>
>Subject: (meteorobs) Null report
>
>I'd like to say that I have something to report but... my backyard right now
>has been consistently 4 to 4.5 LM, which I am guessing means that I
>shouldn't bother... so I've been sharpening up my other astronomy skills
>(hey, bagged my first variable, R Leo tonight!) I think I'll have a good
>chance next week as I'll be in northern rural state of Ohio (south of
>Sandusky, if anyone wants to share dinner ;> ) but probably too late to get
>in the Etas. :/
>
>Regards,
>MikeS
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