This may be intriguing to some : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mpml/message/3952 Anybody got an 8 year cyclicity in their Andromedid/Bielids data? Anybody even seen an Andromedid/Bielid? ;) John To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'meteorobs' email list, use the Web form at: http://www.tiacdot net/users/lewkaren/meteorobs/subscribe.html