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Re: (meteorobs) Re: J shaped train

Hello Barbara and all,
                                  Unfortunately? the timeing is off Barbara.
Mine occured at 6:08 U.T and my mag. estimate was -4.  The train was a
little over 2/3 of the way between Cephus and Cassiopeia.  This was the
first fireball observed that night.  Still, you do raise an interesting
question which I do not have the answer to allthough I have thought about
that before.  If I remember correctly a metor burns 70-90 miles above earths
surface. Then we have the fact that the real path is different from the
apparent path.  How this all fits in I will let someone else hopefully chime
in and answer.


                         Still waiting for "Meteor Astonomy for Dummy's"

                                                      Jeff Wilson
                   ----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Wilson" <bwilson2@ixdot netcom.com>
To: <meteorobs@atmob.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:28 AM
Subject: (meteorobs) Re: J shaped train


Jeff,
Could we have observed the same fireball?  The one that left the J shaped
train that
I can definitely time was a -5 that occurred at 4:20 am CST in Louisiana, it
lasted
for a long time, and it did become round after time. Glad to hear so many in
Fla got
a great show as well as we did in La. It had the curve underneath as well.

Barbara Wilson

> Hi Barbara and All,
>                               Myself and another observer Bernrd =
> Brinkman who made the trip from Germany also viewed  a J shaped train  =
> which lasted an amazing 21 min! This was from Long Key Fla. with cloud =
> free skies except those on the horizons.  This  one was laying with the =
> curve underneath.  By the time it was finally gone it appeard more or =
> less like a round puff of smoke then finally it was gone.  I thought we =
> were going to get clouded out here but it did not happen.  It was =
> allmost as if someone was looking out for us cloud wise as it remained =
> that way until sunrise. =20
> At sunrise we were still seeing meteors fall until finally the light =
> overpowerd them.  16/17 we were clouded out at 08:27 and it remained =
> that way until we decided to sleep. I often sign my postings with the =
> words Long Trains but I was not expecting 21min!
>
>                                            Trains were everywhere,
>                                         Jeff Wilson
> From: Barbara Wilson
>   To: meteorobs@atmob.org=20
>   Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:01 PM
>   Subject: (meteorobs) Report from Louisiana
.
>
>   Many fireballs, though the amount did not approach the 1998 fireballs =
> which I saw from west Texas under 6.8 magnitude skies.  There were =
> several that were of the -8 category, and at least 2 bolides, which =
> split and left enduring trains( though none of the 20 minute trains we =
> saw in 1998). Some lit up the ground like strobe lights. A great mix of =
> fireballs, and bright meteors with a number of fainter 3-4th magnitude, =
> but mostly -1 to 2nd magnitude. A number of J shaped trains,  both right =
> side up and up side down.


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