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Re: (meteorobs) Bob's Leonid Trip to Arizona/Sue & Felix AZ Bound in 2002?



Dear Bob and All - Sounds like Arizona is the place to be!  After
speaking with Norm on the phone today, Sue and I have decided to write my
proposal (for a fully-funded Leonid 2002 Excursion) to head on out to
Arizona.  This will include day trips to Meteor Crater & Grand Canyon
(makes for an Astro-Geology Adventure).  The proposal has to be mailed
out on Tuesday to make the deadline for selection and approval.  Any
ideas from Bob, Norm, Lew, and any others are greatly welcome!  At this
point it looks like I will only need about $2,100.00 to $2,500.00 in
approved funding for the trip expenses & some equipment.  Hope everyone
is having a decent weekend!
		In Astronomical Affinity - Felix A. Martinez

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:11:25 -0800 Robert Lunsford
<lunro.imo.usa@home.com> writes:
> I had the pleasure of viewing the Leonids with two groups this past
> week. I met up with the Dutch group stationed at Safford, Arizona on
> Thursday November 15. This group included Marco Langbroek, Marc 
> DeLigne,
> Rita Verhoef, Romke Schievink, Ralf and Esther (whose last name I 
> cannot
> recall). Sadly Carl Johannick was unable to make the trip due to
> injury:( We checked out the skies that night at the Safford Science
> Museum on the outskirts of town. The skies were dark enough to 
> present
> the Gegenschein and the zodiacal band. Unfortunately there was
> interference from traffic and some annoying local lights. We decided 
> to
> look for a better location. 
> 
> On Friday we spent most of the day checking out possible observing
> sites. Our first destination was Mt. Graham and we found one good 
> site
> on the lower eastern slopes. Some of the horizons were compromised 
> so we
> headed in the opposite direction. We found an even better spot with
> great horizons in the Gila Mountains area northeast of Safford. We
> observed there Saturday morning and noted some impressive Taurid
> activity. The first meteor of the night was a slow green -6 Taurid 
> that
> appeared near the northern horizon. The last meteor of the night was 
> a
> -8 to -10 Leonid that lit the scene and left an impressive train.
> 
> After breakfast and a quick nap it was time to say good bye to my 
> Dutch
> comrades. Actually all but Marco were still sleeping as I left for 
> Mt.
> Lemmon. It would had been difficult to say good-bye in person as 
> they
> were all so nice to me. It was a beautiful drive westward. The
> transition from desert to mountain scenery was spectacular. I did 
> notice
> a bank of cirrus to the west that worried me somewhat. Once up on 
> the
> mountain top it was good to renew acquaintances with Dave Holman, 
> Tom
> Kucharski and Jim Richardson. It was also great to meet the 
> energetic
> observers from Europe; Javor Krac, Jure Atanakov, Jure Zakrajsek, 
> and
> Ana Mancic. As the afternoon progressed the skies became more and 
> more
> of a concern. Satellite pictures showed variable cloudiness over 
> most of
> the southern half of Arizona. The southeast area of the state showed 
> the
> most promise. We decided to sit tight and try to get a nap. 
> 
> We woke at 2000 (8pm) under dreadful skies. The Europeans were
> understandable nervous and were thinking seriously about relocating. 
> The
> satellite picture showed that the worst was over us at the moment 
> and
> that skies should get better. We just did not know how much better!
> My main concern was a large blob of clouds over Southern California 
> that
> was heading our way. I figured it should arrive near dawn and that 
> we
> would be safe until then, that is if it ever cleared up at all!. 
> 
> The mostly cloudy skies prevented me from observing before local
> midnight. Shortly after midnight the Europeans began seeing some
> impressive earthgrazers and greeted them with shouts of joy. I 
> started
> watching at 12:45 local time when there were large breaks in the 
> cirrus.
> The clouds may have still been there but they were thin enough to 
> allow
> unhampered viewing with a sight loss of limiting magnitude. 
> Occasionally
> a denser patch of cirrus would float by but it was easy just to 
> change
> my field of view to watch in better skies. 
> 
> Rates and the brightness of the Leonids were impressive right from 
> the
> start. The long Leonids continued for at least another hour. It was 
> easy
> to record on tape and click the mouse early in the session. It 
> became a
> little more difficult when activity really picked up around 10 UT 
> (3am
> MST). I also began photographing the show at this point. My next 
> check
> of my cassette recorder revealed that it had stopped recording in 
> the
> 33F (1 C) temperature. After a loss of 3 minutes changing batteries 
> it
> seemed to be working again. A bit later on it quit again so I 
> employed
> by backup recorder which worked flawlessly the remainder of the 
> night.
> 
> The rates climbed steadily and seemed to reach a peak around 10:45 
> UT
> (3:45am MST) with rates near 30 per minute. Rates slowed somewhat 
> for
> the next 15 minutes but shortly after the hour activity picked up 
> again.
> The show climaxed near 11:05 UT when 6 near simultaneous Leonids 
> shot in
> different directions creating the "spokes of a wheel" effect. This
> effect can only be seen when the radiant lies within your field of 
> view.
> Those looking toward the radiant had the advantage of seeing Leonids
> shooting in all directions and had no difficulty seeing the
> shorter/slower Leonids. Much to my surprise the rates still remained
> strong the remainder of the night and did not fall off rapidly as 
> had
> occurred in 1999. For this reason plus the tremendous number of 
> bright
> meteors, the 2001 Leonid shower surpassed the 1999 event, at least 
> in my
> mind. 
> 
> After 5:00am the cirrus became more of a nuisance as that blob of 
> clouds
> from Southern California began to arrive. By the time I stopped
> recording at 5:45am it was getting difficult to find a cloud free
> section of the sky in which to watch.
> 
> I spent the next 30 minutes wrapped in a blanket just standing 
> around
> marveling at the still impressive show occurring during the 
> brightening
> twilight. I have to admit that after all the energy put forth in
> recording the activity it was certainly nice just to stand there and
> watch in relaxed mode. Just before stepping into the observatory 
> dome I
> was rewarding with a -8 Leonid fireball producing 3 flares before 
> being
> extinguished by clouds low in the northern sky. The sunrise was also
> impressive with its many vivid colors. 
> 
> Before heading to bed we toasted the night with a magnum of 
> champagne
> which was the perfect way to end a night such a fantastic night 
> shared
> with special people. Marco was kind enough to phone me later that 
> day
> saying they obtained similar rates under slightly better conditions 
> from
> their eastern Arizona location.
> 
> Nov 18, 2001
>    
> 15 MINUTE INTERVALS
> 
> 0745-0800 UT   9 Leonids    1 SPO         Estimated LM +5.4  
> 0800-0815 UT  11    "       2  "              "        +4.7  
> 0815-0830 UT  10    "       1  "              "        +5.0  
> 0830-0845 UT   8    "       0  "              "        +5.5 
> 0845-0900 UT  20    "       2 NTA             "        +5.7
> 0900-0915 UT  33    "       0 SPO             "        +5.8
> 0915-0930 UT  35    "       2 NTA/1 SPO       "        +5.9
> 
> 5 MINUTE INTERVALS
> 
> 0930-0935 UT  21    "       1 AMO/2 SPO       "        +5.9
> 0935-0940 UT  30    "       3 SPO             "        +6.0
> 0940-0945 UT  29    "       2  "              "        +6.0
> 0945-0950 UT  25    "       1 AMO/2 SPO       "        +6.0
> 0950-0955 UT  33    "       2 SPO             "        +6.0
> 0955-1000 UT  44    "       1 AMO/1 SPO       "        +6.0
>    
> 1 MINUTE INTERVALS
> 
> 1000-1001 UT   6    "       1  "              "        +6.0
> 1001-1002 UT  11    "       0  "              "        +6.0
> 1002-1003 UT   7    "       1  "              "        +6.0
> 1003-1004 UT   3    "       0  "              "        +6.0
> 1004-1005 UT   4    "       0  "              "        +6.1
> 1005-1006 UT   6    "       0  "              "        +6.1
> 1006-1007 UT  BREAK            "              "         
> 1007-1008 UT  BREAK            "              "         
> 1008-1009 UT  BREAK            "              "         
> 1009-1010 UT  13    "       0  "              "        +6.2
> 1010-1011 UT   5    "       0  "              "        +6.2
> 1011-1012 UT  13    "       0  "              "        +6.2
> 1012-1013 UT  11    "       0  "              "        +6.2
> 1013-1014 UT   4    "       1  "              "        +6.2
> 1014-1015 UT  11    "       1  "              "        +6.2
> 1015-1016 UT  11    "       1  "              "        +6.2
> 1016-1017 UT  16    "       0  "              "        +6.2
> 1017-1018 UT  19    "       0  "              "        +6.2
> 1018-1019 UT  15    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1019-1020 UT  10    "       1  "              "        +6.3
> 1020-1021 UT  15    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1021-1022 UT  12    "       1  "              "        +6.3
> 1022-1023 UT   9    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1023-1024 UT  17    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1024-1025 UT  16    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1025-1026 UT  14    "       1  "              "        +6.3
> 1026-1027 UT  11    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1027-1028 UT  14    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1028-1029 UT  21    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1029-1030 UT  21    "       1  "              "        +6.4
> 1030-1031 UT  17    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1031-1032 UT  12    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1032-1033 UT  12    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1033-1034 UT  21    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1034-1035 UT  13    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1035-1036 UT  14    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1036-1037 UT  16    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1037-1038 UT  24    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1038-1039 UT  26    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1039-1040 UT  18    "       1  "              "        +6.4
> 1040-1041 UT  20    "       1  "              "        +6.4
> 1041-1042 UT  18    "       1 NPX             "        +6.4
> 1042-1043 UT  21    "       0 SPO             "        +6.4
> 1043-1044 UT  17    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1044-1045 UT  28    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1045-1046 UT  28    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1046-1047 UT  26    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1047-1048 UT  22    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1048-1049 UT  17    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1049-1050 UT  19    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1050-1051 UT  15    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1051-1052 UT  21    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1052-1053 UT  13    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1053-1054 UT  13    "       1  "              "        +6.4
> 1054-1055 UT  19    "       2  "              "        +6.4
> 1055-1056 UT   9    "       0  "              "        +6.4
> 1056-1057 UT  18    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1057-1058 UT  18    "       3  "              "        +6.3
> 1058-1059 UT  24    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1059-1100 UT  22    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1100-1101 UT  21    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1101-1102 UT  27    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1102-1103 UT  22    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1103-1104 UT  20    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1104-1105 UT  16    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1105-1106 UT  35    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1106-1107 UT  23    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1107-1108 UT  16    "       1  "              "        +6.3
> 1108-1109 UT  25    "       1  "              "        +6.3
> 1109-1110 UT  11    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1110-1111 UT  12    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1111-1112 UT  19    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1112-1113 UT  14    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1113-1114 UT  11    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1114-1115 UT  13    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1115-1116 UT  18    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1116-1117 UT  12    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1117-1118 UT  12    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1118-1119 UT  14    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1119-1120 UT  11    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1120-1121 UT  10    "       1  "              "        +6.3
> 1121-1122 UT   9    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1122-1123 UT  15    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1123-1124 UT  15    "       0  "              "        +6.3
> 1124-1125 UT   5    "       1  "              "        +6.2
> 1125-1126 UT   2    "       1  "              "        +6.2
> 1126-1127 UT  15    "       0  "              "        +6.1
> 1127-1128 UT  13    "       0  "              "        +5.9
> 1129-1130 UT  10    "       0  "              "        +5.8
> 1130-1131 UT  11    "       0  "              "        +5.7
> 1131-1132 UT   7    "       0  "              "        +5.7
> 1132-1133 UT  10    "       0  "              "        +5.7
> 1133-1134 UT   4    "       0  "              "        +5.7
> 1134-1135 UT   7    "       0  "              "        +5.7
> 
> 5 MINUTE INTERVALS
> 
> 1135-1140 UT  37    "       0  "              "        +5.8
> 1140-1145 UT  28    "       2  "              "        +5.8
> 1145-1150 UT  23    "       2  "              "        +5.8
> 1150-1155 UT  22    "       1  "              "        +5.7
> 1155-1200 UT  21    "       0  "              "        +5.7
> 1200-1205 UT  20    "       1  "              "        +5.6
> 1205-1210 UT  28    "       0  "              "        +5.6
> 1210-1215 UT  17    "       2  "              "        +5.6
> 1215-1220 UT  19    "       1  "              "        +5.6
> 1220-1225 UT  20    "       1  "              "        +5.7
> 1225-1230 UT  19    "       1  "              "        +5.7
> 1230-1235 UT  29    "       2  "              "        +5.7
> 1235-1240 UT  17    "       1  "              "        +5.7
> 1240-1245 UT  29    "       0  "              "        +5.7
> 
> Totals:
> 
> Leonids         1998
> Spordics          53
> North Taurids      4
> Alpha Monocerotids 3
> Northern Apex      1
> 
> Grand Totals:   2059 meteors in 4.95 hours (297 minutes), 6.93 
> meteors
> per minute or 1                   meteor every 8.66 seconds.
> 
> Bob Lunsford
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