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Re: (meteorobs) "Electrophonic" Fireball sound nonsense

Have thoroughly enjoy this discussion!

It brings to mind, when in the pristinely quiet Alaskan outback in 1965,
that I listened to the crackling and hissing sounds, while I watched in awe,
the Aurora Borealis!


... Dave



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Z Grey" <kzgrey@ntplxdot net>
To: <meteorobs@atmob.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 18:54
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) "Electrophonic" Fireball sound nonsense



Hi Mike,

    I've witnessed a fireball about 8 years ago where I heard crackling
noises.  My brother was with me and heard the same thing.  This was long
before we heard anyone even propose that such a phenomenon existed.  At
the time we didn't give it much thought, but one things for certain, we
heard crackling and popping that coincided with the fireball's
intensity.  Even if we don't know what the cause is, and back of
envelope calculations point to it as being nonsense, that doesn't mean
that a noise is not being produced.  Scientificly it may be
unexplainable given that reproducing it is difficult, but my ears were
telling me they were hearing noises.  In fact, it occurred after a
violent thunder storm which blew out the power, so there wasn't any
background noise or electrical devices running and the wind was
extremely calm.  So unless there are little men rattling the dry leaves
in the woods at that precise instant, I heard a noise that was
indirectly related to the fireball.  Weird it is.  I don't have an
explaination for it, I just know I heard it.

~~K


Michael Linnolt wrote:

>Dale, In fact I am looking for the answer! My simple logical analysis
ruling out the "meteor electrophonics" seems hard to refute. If someone can
offer an adequate explanation, please do so. This leads to the next step,
then of suggesting what else could be responsible for "simultaneously"
hearing and seeing meteors. If its physically impossible to detect meteor RF
over background while NOT detecting cell phone RF by the same mechanism,
then what is being reported by the witnesses? One explanation could be just
a coincidental occurence of the meteor with some locally generated sound.
This may sound too simple, but many "weird" experiences in the world can be
explained by such rare, random coincidental occurences! Take the probability
of hearing an electrophonic sound at some time as p0. The probability of
seeing a meteor as p1. The odds both will occur together is p0*p1, which is
small but finite, and given the rarity of these reports, fits quite well
with my little theory!
>
>Mike Linnolt
>
>--- Dale <biscayne@snappydsldot net> wrote:
>
>
>>hi mike
>>i've been a ham and an electronics freak since long
>>before transistors
>>i understand your point completely and you certainly
>>raise a good question
>>but i fear you miss my main point:
>>the dismissal of something that can't be explained
>>is exactly what science,
>>and the pursuit of truth, (granted these are not
>>ALWAYS the same) are NOT
>>all about
>>
>>something is happening with this business of
>>(nearly) simultaneous 'aural'
>>perception of various atmospheric events far too far
>>away to be explained by
>>direct transmission of sound waves
>>
>>so why not help look for an answer instead of
>>dismissing the problem?
>>dale
>>
>>

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