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(meteorobs) Clear skies from MI & Puppid/Velids "20 Nov."?
November 20, 2003
Greetings Meteor Enthusiasts!
I had clear skies last night, on the morning of Nov.
20! Amazing! My Teff. was 57 min. and I saw 13+
meteors and probably missed some others! Only ~3
could have been Leonids though. I will try to send a
report but can't be certain of long it will take as I
do not know when time will permit it.
I noticed something rather interesting last night,
much like Kearn Jones' Nov. 19 observations. At least
three meteors or possibly as much as 5+/- seem to
connect somewhere in Taurus or beyond there. (I need
to consult a map.) Too bad I hadn't prepared myself
yet for plotting, as I do not have a star map to plot
with. Nevertheless, I could clearly see that
something looked suspicious. They were average speed
to fast and none of them left trains. Their
magnitudes were varied however: ~+1 to +3. While two
of them could have been Taurids, the others seemed too
fast.
Once again I have a question:
1. I did not have accurate coordinates for the meteor
showers that I observed last night. They were Robert
Lunsford's meteor forecast for last Sat./Sun I
believe. I also fumbled during most of my
observations (like usual) and it should come to no
surprise that I am not certain if the Leonids I saw
were Leonids as the NPX "radiant" was close by. Any
advice on how to handle such a situation?
Thank you for everyone's past help in answering all my
questions!
Long, bright, leftover Leonids!
Mark Fox
Newaygo, MI USA
--- belatrix <belatrix@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Hi
> Went out (solo) to dark site near 34.5 south 139
> east (400 mtrs) to
> hopefully view LEO's - only saw total of 5 LEO's in
> over two hours of teff -
> but saw high activity from small area of the
> southern milky way as i was
> looking high N/E for LEO's - at first i thought it
> was just usual sporadics
> but when a couple of them again caught my eye, i
> turned to look and i was
> looking at an asterism which i thought for a second
> was Musca, but quickly
> realised it wasnt right.
>
> While i was looking at this asterism, right in the
> centre, i saw what
> appeared to be a 1.5 sec lasting +2 supernova which
> left no star in its
> place! But of course it must of been a head on
> meteor (Point meteor?) i
> continued to get most of meteors of the night
> roughly from this area, even
> though i was centred NE. Upon reflection after i got
> home, i thought to
> check for a shower from this area. i came up with
> the possibility that they
> were Puppid/Velids. The Musca like asterism i think
> it was seems to be
> centred around 08hr 45 min -45 with lambda Vela on
> the top corner of
> asterism, from my view. I will check it out at the
> same time tomorrow if
> possible, to see if i am correct about the asterism
> and its position. I read
> that the 10 degree diameter radiant of the
> Puppid/Velids is around 08 hr 12
> min - 45 . Active from dec 1st - dec 15th with max
> activity on 7 th dec
> with a ZHR of 10.
>
> These are the ones that crossed into my high NE
> centred view, from my right
>
> 1:50 am - 2:17 am 4 possible Puppid/Velids (ACDST
> 20th nov) 15% cloud cover
> 2:30 am - 3:00 am 5 possible Puppid/Velids
> 15% cloud cover
> 3:01 am - 3:31 am 5 possible Puppid/Velids
> 40% cloud cover
>
> 1:50 am 20th Nov ACDST = 15:20 19th nov 03 UT
>
> They were white in colour and around the +2 to +3 in
> mag , swiftish but
> medium long, some travelled about 50* - 60* heading
> north and north west
> mostly, no trains. ZLM was around 6.5 at these times
> (high thin cirrus
> again) and 5.5 at horizon. There were a few more
> meteors from this area
> outside of these times, but these are the ones i
> wrote down.
>
> Come to think of it, all these 6 and half years we
> have going out to see the
> big - ( mostly north favouring - but hey! we get
> the centre of our galaxy
> at zenith mid winter, the mage's, and Q4 and T7 next
> year ect., so im not
> complaining too much :-) ) - "Blockbuster" meteor
> showers there has often
> been a lot of activity from southern areas, but we
> only looked at them as a
> side entertainment and marked them down as sporadics
> usually. Some of them
> certainly could of been shower members - will have
> to start taking them more
> seriously.
>
> Will write leonid report later : best leonid was -5
> smoking earthgrazer
> that headed west over the horizon - at least 75*
> degree path- at around 3:15
> am acdst 16:45 19th UT
>
> Cheers
> Kearn Jones
>
>
>
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