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Re: (meteorobs) Bob Lunsford's Suggestions/Help & Nov. 19/20 - to Feliz Martinez
Thanks, Feliz Martinez. that's a welcome hightlight.
Marco Valois
----- Original Message -----
From: FELIX A MARTINEZ <suejam1@juno.com>
To: <meteorobs@atmob.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Bob Lunsford's Suggestions/Help & Nov. 19/20
Correction - LM, Marco Valois
> Hi Paul, Marco, Lew, Norman, Bob Kim and All! I remember recording DCV
> Data on all my meteors between 1976 and about 1980. Also recall that
> Bill Gates (not the one We all know & love) had the most bizarre Data
> that related to this DCV Value as He saw three to ten times the number of
> meteors that Norman and I saw on any given night of observing!
> In Astronomical Affinity - Felix A.
> Martinez
>
> ** Karl Simmons Our AMS "Meteor News" Editor would remember this also!!
> **
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:53:25 -0200 "Marco Valois"
> <newseven@hotlink.com.br> writes:
> > Hi Paul Jones and all,
> >
> > As far as I can understand, the LM is very effectivity. I go under
> > its
> > parameters quite often. Besides, there's no way other to observe the
> > skies,
> > when the its conditions seem queer or something different from the
> > usual. I
> > mean: dark skies or cloudy or more blue than never, what brings
> > certain
> > efforts from the observer. And, in my opinion the most interesting
> > phenomena: the angles and natural curves of the earth dome etc. So,
> > this
> > vary on the most. Once it happens in, my case, I immediately go to
> > the
> > explanation links to find any help. To the list, I politely argue
> > once
> > overwhelmed of getting any difficult, if the better way is not
> > identifying
> > the faint star nearby the stars with more LM to better come to its
> > magnitude
> > under the parameters of Meteorobs, NAMN, IMO and so on. Excuse me,
> > but
> > that's my experience. Good to read any subject related to this
> > aspect,
> >
> > Clear skies and nice Thanksgiving to all, Marco Valois
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Jones <jonesp0854@hotmail.com>
> > To: <meteorobs@atmob.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Bob Lunsford's Suggestions/Help & Nov.
> > 19/20
> > Correction -MarcoV.
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > This topic jogged an old memory in me. Back in the seventies
> > when I
> > > first got started serious meteor observing, one of the data points
> > I
> > > recorded on each meteor seen was a column called DCV. This stood
> > for
> > > "Distance from Central Vision". Haven't seen this term used or
> > recorded
> > in
> > > a long time. It was a measure of how far away you saw a meteor
> > from the
> > > point on the sky where you were actually looking. Each observer
> > had an
> > > average (specified in degrees) "DCV value" which was a measure of
> > that
> > > person's ability to spot meteors over a large (or small) area of
> > the sky.
> > > We faithfully recorded this right along with LM (we called it ZS
> > -
> > zenithal
> > > star) in those days. Doing this soon showed that some observers
> > have much
> > > more sensitive peripheral vision than others do. This may be an
> > even more
> > > important value that LM and is strictly based on observer
> > sensitivty and
> > not
> > > on sky condition. Even under the same sky and sitting side by
> > side,
> > > observers will get consistently different results . And, one
> > established,
> > > the results were very consistent from one individual to another as
> > to
> > > perception capability over time. Just thought I'd throw this out
> > for
> > > discussion. I know Norman (and maybe Bob L.) will remember this.
> > Paul in
> > > FL
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Marco Valois" <newseven@hotlink.com.br>
> > > >Reply-To: meteorobs@atmob.org
> > > >To: <meteorobs@atmob.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Bob Lunsford's Suggestions/Help & Nov.
> > 19/20
> > > >Correction -Marco V.
> > > >Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:52:11 -0200
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Dear list,
> > > >
> > > >Good enough for the short lines explanations about LM estimatives
> > along.
> > I
> > > >myself, day yes day no, go a little under what the list links
> > explain,
> > but,
> > > >also and quite often, I do my own datae on the cluster(s) of
> > star(s)
> > taking
> > > >the faintest nearby star from the radiant site. Another aspect is
> > the
> > > >dedication for each session time. As much as I spend observing
> > dark
> > skies,
> > > >as clear the faintest star(!) seems to me. Of course that it goes
> > a
> > little
> > > >bit against the LM procedures. Anyway, no method is still better
> > for me
> > > >than
> > > >that to identify different kind of stars in the Milky Way. Thanks
> > for
> > this
> > > >very meaningfull and subject. :)
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Marco Valois
> > > >
> > > >_________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Michael Linnolt <mlinnolt@alum.mitdot edu>
> > > >To: <meteorobs@atmob.org>
> > > >Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 7:20 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Bob Lunsford's Suggestions/Help & Nov.
> > 19/20
> > > >Correction
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This is definitely a shortcoming of the current count-area
> > based LM
> > > >estimating system suggested by IMO. ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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