Lew; Thanks for setting me up as a "real" observer, I need to get off my butt and read the FAQ and clip the form for later use. BTW, my 13" is on a Bigfoot German Eq. mount and I don't think I am braggin' when I speak of myself as an expert observer. I appreciate your effort in getting the deep sky mail server up and running, I plan to participate often. Clear Skies to us all; Steve Coe