Lew, Hartmut, Luis and others, Thanks for the helpful comments I will try them and to keep a better eye on my forms too. Nick Nick Martin, Bonnyton House, By Ayr, Ayrshire KA6 7EW ,Scotland, UK. Latitude 55 24'56" Longtitude 4 26' 00". "Thou star of evening's purple dome That lead'st the nightingale abroad, And guid'st the pilgrim to his home." To the Evening Star by T.Campbell