Lew this is actually a repeat observation for me. Last year I observed this same OC with a 4.5" newt. The "idea" came from an article in Astronomy magazine I believe. I logged it to IAAC then so it should be in the archives. Don To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'netastrocatalog' lists, use the Web form at: http://www.tiac.net/users/lewkaren/netastrocatalog/subscribe.html