Re: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 3242 (Ghost of Jupiter, CBS Eye) - Inst: 11" f/4.5 dob

Well said, Lew. As a former hight school sports official, I say "Call'em 
like you see'em!", whatever culture you metaphor belongs to.

William Schart

On Monday, April 2, 2001, at 03:17 PM, Lew Gramer wrote:

> Well, I'm surely happy to have stirred an enthusiastic (if pointed) 
> response
> with one of my IAAC observing logs! :)
> A certain well-respected European gentleman wrote:
>> What on Earth do you mean by "CBS Eye"? Is this a cultural reference
>> that non-Americans are not privy to?
> To which another person of unknown provenance replied:
>> Probably a cultural reference, unfortunately.
> As was guessed on the IAAC list, the "CBS Eye" name is indeed a cultural
> reference, although not one invented by me, I assure you all... I have 
> often
> heard this alternate name used (by Americans, naturally) for the 
> "Ghost".
> By the way, here is a passable, online image of the questioned logo:
>     http://www.cbsnews.com
> And here, a wonderfully illustrative image of the planetary in question:
>     http://www.blackskies.com/images/Hunter/ngc3242_s.jpg
> Some say that "poetry" consists in that essential part of language 
> which can
> never be translated. (In this view, a "translated poem" is in fact 
> really an
> entirely new poem in the new language...) The same may be said of many 
> apt, if
> limited cultural references, including among them the Eskimo Nebula, 
> Rosette,
> Beehive (a reference to a dead agricultural practice!), Papillon 
> (i1708), or
> most particularly the Christmas Tree cluster, Toby Jug nebula (i2220), 
> etc.
> In my defence, the aging, culturally-limited CBS corporate logo is such 
> an apt
> description of the true visual AND photographic appearance of n3242 - 
> far
> better, to my eye, than "Ghost of Jupiter" or similar monikers - that I 
> would
> never hesitate to use it, even if others might miss the reference at 
> first.
> What's more, if anyone ever did in fact report "Chip Butty" to be the 
> most apt
> description for a deep-sky object's appearance, or for that matter if I 
> saw an
> observing log of the "Kumis Nebula" or "Haggis Galaxy" (;>), I naively 
> hope I
> would rather be intrigued to understand what the observer's eye and 
> mind truly
> perceived, than offended at not understanding their reference right 
> away? And
> so it's with THIS spirit that I take the well-respected gentleman's 
> question!
> To all a clear sky! Or if it must be cloudy, then to all a good debate,
> Lew Gramer
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