Chris Schur has a nice color image of M57 & IC1296 at: http://www.PSIAZ.com/Schur/astro/ccdimagepages/m57-2.html Of course, he adjusted it to bring out the best in both objects and not to show the relative brightness of each. Alan G. To stop receiving all 'netastrocatalog' lists, use the Web form at: http://www.visualdeepsky.org/subscribe.html