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Re: (meteorobs) Asher/McNaught Leonid model predictive value



In a message dated 8/29/99 2:29:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
marcolan@stad.dsldot nl writes:

<<  Rob . . . I must say that you are right in your remark that 
 the historic fits of your model in a sense are proving the model's 
 predictive value (so I take back part of my reply I send in earlier). But 
 so apparently do for example William's and Wu's model, who also get good 
 historical fits but quite different results from it. >>

Marco -- you are correct on this point!  As I also noted in the October 1998 
WGN, the two chief studies available (at that time) based on the distribution 
of particles with 55P/Tempel-Tuttle were from the teams of Brown and Jones 
and Wu and Williams.  Both teams carefully modeled the Leonid stream and 
investigated its evolution on an assumption that most of the meteors observed 
in 1965-66 were ejected from the comet at one of its previous three returns.  
Both teams were very careful in having their respective models reasonably 
account for the non-storm years of 1899 and 1933, as well as the storm year 
of 1966.  Yet, in the end we have DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE solutions:  

Brown and Jones indicated that the Leonid showers from 1998 through 2000 
would be strong, with the highest activity coming in 1999.

Wu and Williams' forecast was quite different, indicating that 1998 would be 
either similar to 1899 or 1932, while their prediction for the 1999 Leonids 
indicate that 
" . . . few will be seen."

So indeed . . . even those who deal with the orbital dynamics of such things 
can be at odds as well.

-- joe rao    
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