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Re: (meteorobs) Are the geminids really disappearing?
In a message dated 12/12/01 4:53:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kikosideral@yahoo.com.br writes:
<< I have an old Astronomy issue (dec/90) that carries an article advising:
"Observe the geminids before they disappear" (by Phillp Bagnall). Some
excerpts say:
"The geminid swarm has difted past Earth over the last 150 years. Today
our orbit still intersects the densest part of the meteor swarm, but by
the early 21st we will miss this core entirely. The way the shower has
picked has also changed over the years, with today's shower rising
slowly to maximum and dropping off sharply"... "This situation is
exactly the opposite of that witnessed during the 1930's"... "If the
computer model is correct, we will miss the core completely by the turn
of the century and rates will plummet."
Have there been any changes to this model since 1990?
Are the geminids ZHR really dropping off in the last few years?
>>
In Gary Kronk's indispensable "Meteor Showers/A Descriptive Catalog" you
might partially find the answer to your question. It seems that a Czech
astronomer by the name of Miroslav Plavec investigated the orbit of the
Geminid stream back in 1950. The most interesting part of his study was
determining the intersection point between the stream's orbit and the
ecliptic. For the year 1700 it was found that the intersection point was
placed 0.1337 AU inside the Earth's orbit. For 1900, the intersection point
was located 0.0178 AU inside the Earth's orbit, while in 2100, the point
would be 0.1066 AU outside of Earth's orbit.
As Gary noted: "Thus, Plavec not only showed why the activity of the
Geminids was steadily increasing, but he also demonstrated that the activity
would eventually decline and that sometime in the future Earth would no
longer contact the stream's orbit."
As for Phillip Bagnall's reasoning for calling for Geminid rates to
plummet at the turn of the century, I can only guess that he was
interpolating from Plavec's findings:
Since the first observations of Geminid activity did not occur until
1862, by simple interpolation from Plavec's numbers we find that the Geminid
stream was positioned roughly 0.040 AU inside Earth's orbit at that
particular time. If you were to continue to extrapolate, then the Earth and
the Geminid orbit would have nearly coincided by the late 1920's and would
again be roughly 0.040 AU from Earth's orbit (but outside of it) by about the
end of the 20th century. Thus, going by these numbers alone, one would have
every reason to suspect that a significant downturn in Geminid activity would
be occurring about now.
However . . . if for nothing else, Geminid activity has actually become
stronger, with rates increasing from ~50/hr. in the 1950s to the current
~100/hr. If we are currently experiencing the absolute peak of the Geminids
at this point in history, one would like to hope that their "impending
demise" will be somewhat delayed.
Although as rapid has been their increase over the past half century,
perhaps an even more rapid decline may be about to set in during the next
half century. Who can say for sure? We can only take advantage of the fact
that . . . for this moment in time . . . we can all enjoy a strong and
reliable annual meteor shower that is rich in bright meteors!
-- joe rao
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