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RE: (meteorobs) '98 Leonid rates

I went back and looked at my per-minute results and found the following.
      Nov 16/17, 1998 all times UT, and about 75 percent of a full viewing
area, but otherwise very clear, dark skies:

  8:17  1 Leonid
  8:18  1 Leonid
  8:19  1 sporadic
  8:20  0
  8:21  2 Leonids
  8:22  3 Leonids
  8:23  2 Leonids
  8:24  1 Leonid and 1 sporadic
  8:25  0
  8:26  1 Leonid
  8:27  1 Leonid
  8:28  1 Leonid
  8:29  2 Leonids, and 
  8:30  1 Leonid

   Frankly, these rates are not as high as is often seen during a Perseid
shower.  The fireballs were better, however!  My guess is that you
encountered some random increase but it was not "real" in the sense of being
universally true for the shower.  
   Anybody else have results to share?

   Pete Bias
   (also from sunny Florida)

-----Original Message-----
From: ksyo@bellsouthdot net [mailto:ksyo@bellsouthdot net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:07 PM
To: meteorobs@atmob.org
Subject: (meteorobs) '98 Leonid rates


     I had been thinking back on the '98 leonids...specifically what I saw
*in light* of what I observed in 2001 and 2002...the storms.  
     At sometime around 3:30 AM local time( 8:30 UT SL 234.881) -roughly -
there was an outburst.  For several minutes, rates went up to
(conservatively)
4-7 leonids per minute.  It was also right after this that I saw the monster
fireball of my life (-12 to -15?).
     In fact, I *have* to compare this to the 2001 and 2002 returns, they
are the only point of reference that comes close, in my experience.
     Did any other North American observers have any similar experience?  My
timing is not perfect here, I was not even a trained observer yet.  But I
know it occurred before 9:00 UT and after 8:00 UT.
      The ZHR profile at the IMO website shows a descending ZHR curve at
this point in time -- this was several hours before the "traditional" peak.
It would be nice to hear from anyone who had a silimar, or completely
different, experience with the rates at that time.

Kim Youmans 
        

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